From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Fri Jun 10 11:53:07 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F53B71550 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 11:53:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F5A1118 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 11:53:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 675EBB7154E; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 11:53:07 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D5DB7154D; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 11:53:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22f.google.com (mail-wm0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E90531117; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 11:53:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id k204so98807343wmk.0; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 04:53:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=GFrw87W4K9y8Jdwk7vTFhVGJ0gtwLF4x913wE0o9Ad8=; b=M7P5UEGouQD5zGZnMsLmApfTgNztUqEwtbmVQxE1QCxhMKJ8/whocjL4tUY9M0ytJ9 7k3c3gFaUtuyyCbE89HZlbmBk26RE+ASQ4tIruSgL4Ck81wSQEW4Q6eeYwmZ/aTqm7qH PRAsG5ERuPIsLOsCIJJ+H6j0bJc0tqYERBbwWmfYyV8w+WK8jh9ACfcb7JO3YVRCbKtY HetmNqdq6kUTsBCLsnIz2y1G8pkP4EIHApDA6IwWYCeILFpibtloNazw6DRDGg1fooRu 4852Fo411HFLXc7tOcT2U2FTgFRG4L5dbijhC+Q6IKn97ow/eJ//ndIveuGXB7QB0t4h UoNw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=GFrw87W4K9y8Jdwk7vTFhVGJ0gtwLF4x913wE0o9Ad8=; b=FQrqyoyURbsCklGU0PHZ+FqvgJ1PNuP1yJOyELFJ0/KphI7Lz13skOaIM3QyK/qn7z 8mlIB+9oLSe+tQ38STKbL4WCr1xhISwFHpuBXjjDBb7jQx6V2efWv42BMPpXE0JnGgd5 vREzN0CeLPIBSOmivWzBxHuEBc/x6nfRV1Gn7MZ0ymdKWmF4doq+odhS7venWA1RU4Lf mCMxE6DFbCVsWyG0DoEDHw8x7UKdLVMOCnLEK6+KKtVOwsTtXJiHRYXG7fc9MPJGEtUM TVDe/draKo6xKIaDUvB4Mg/74cNJcbzcTpwHP31RuCIP5/9t7MwOEtfVRDhLPH8VdKwc xJEA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKlg/sFktLw/7tJKrNUXi6sJoQcO5Swii8Lv4ddM6o4KZW4KtGMSdIlUoitaE+Co0+K54hiiHnlGXlXIA== X-Received: by 10.195.11.103 with SMTP id eh7mr1851966wjd.56.1465559585472; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 04:53:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.6.12 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 04:53:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20160609133739.GV75630@zxy.spb.ru> References: <20160602122727.GB75625@zxy.spb.ru> <86pors7cba.fsf@desk.des.no> <20160608094859.GH75625@zxy.spb.ru> <20160609080440.GR75630@zxy.spb.ru> <20160609133739.GV75630@zxy.spb.ru> From: krad Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 12:53:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: unbound and ntp issuse To: Slawa Olhovchenkov Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Dag=2DErling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= , freebsd-security@freebsd.org, "stable@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 11:53:07 -0000 Pretty much every box requires some form of configuration so its a moot point. IF you want automated deployment you will almost certainly be building a pxe or prepreared usb/cd image of some sort. In which case you include these settings in the deployed rc.conf. On 9 June 2016 at 14:37, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 02:29:09PM +0100, krad wrote: > > > I doubt that will happen as you are asking to pollute every release > > installation for an edge condition when there is numerous work arounds > > that would be acceptable to most. eg two lines in rc.conf will fix th= e > > issue. > > This manual editing will be required by every install on RPi, for > example. > > Also, this issuse hard to dignostics by average user. > > > On 9 June 2016 at 09:04, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 08:39:42AM +0100, krad wrote: > > > > > > > googles will be pretty static, but i would just use them as a one > off, ie > > > > with ntpdate > > > > > > i am talk about freebsd system/project. > > > > > > > > > > > On 8 June 2016 at 10:48, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 02:29:29AM +0200, Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgra= v > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Slawa Olhovchenkov writes: > > > > > > > IMHO, ntp.conf need to include some numeric IP of public ntp > > > servers. > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTP_server_misuse_and_abuse > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poul-Henning_Kamp#Dispute_with_D-Link > > > > > > > > > > What you suggestion? > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > > freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > >