From owner-freebsd-arch Fri Feb 16 9:41:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 532A337B503 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:41:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id JAA03078; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:40:40 -0800 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda03076; Fri Feb 16 09:40:37 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f1GHeWO74591; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:40:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdd74585; Fri Feb 16 09:40:21 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f1GHeKO29359; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:40:20 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200102161740.f1GHeKO29359@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdz29352; Fri Feb 16 09:40:04 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , Mark Murray , Matt Dillon , arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Wish List (was: Re: The /usr/bin/games bikeshed again) In-reply-to: Your message of "16 Feb 2001 16:56:10 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:40:04 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , Dag-Erling Smorgrav writes: > Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group writes: > > making them ports, like "r" commands, telnet, ftp, etc., > > Telnet and FTP still have their uses, even if they're not encrypted. > FTP is obviously useful for anonymous FTP, and removing it would cause > an uproar. Telnet is extremely useful as a debugging tool (remember, > you can telnet to any TCP port, not just port 23...) I suppose Telnet, FTP, and "r" commands have their uses on a trusted private network behind a firewall or simply disconnected from the Internet. I use them at home on my private network but avoid their use at work and recommend to clients that they should be phased out. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message