From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 25 20:43:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF1516A4CE; Fri, 25 Jun 2004 20:43:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from structbio.vanderbilt.edu (reef.structbio.Vanderbilt.Edu [160.129.138.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26D643D5E; Fri, 25 Jun 2004 20:43:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bandix@home.funnyvalentine.net) Received: from home.funnyvalentine.net (adsl-065-007-237-012.sip.bna.bellsouth.net [65.7.237.12]) i5PK4RRg014533 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 25 Jun 2004 15:04:28 -0500 Received: (from bandix@localhost) by home.funnyvalentine.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i5PK4Jki052397; Fri, 25 Jun 2004 15:04:19 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bandix) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 15:04:19 -0500 From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Danny Braniss Message-ID: <20040625200419.GA51537@brandon.dvalentine.com> References: <20040625105159.GA41051@walton.maths.tcd.ie> <20040625114314.1371C43D41@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040625114314.1371C43D41@mx1.FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: David Malone cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org cc: Robert Watson Subject: amd/autofs on BSD (was Re: waiting on sbwait) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 20:43:27 -0000 On Fri, Jun 25, 2004 at 02:43:03PM +0300, Danny Braniss wrote: > I understand, but the problem is that all access via amd are now stalled, till > the one process failes/times-out. I guess it's because the single thread amd. This is an excellent opportunity to ask: Is anyone working on or does anyone know of a project to develop a real autofs implementation for BSD that's compatible with the autofs implementations on every other UNIX? I see where am-utils got some 'gamma quality' autofs support added for Linux and Solaris systems, but still nada on BSD. IMO amd has probably outlived its usefulness and should be shot in the head and replaced with a Sun-style automounter. It does much to discourage BSDs adoption in large multiuser environments when it requires special cruft to make it play nicely with automounting. [ I realize I've set myself up for 'show me the code', but my intent was not to complain about the lack of a better automounter, merely to ask if anyone is working on one, because if they are, I'd help. ] Does anyone know what Apple is doing for automounting under OS X? Are they using amd or a Sun-style autofs implementation? If the latter, have they released it as open source or been approached about doing so? Brandon D. Valentine -- brandon@dvalentine.com http://www.geekpunk.net Pseudo-Random Googlism: june is adopt a shelter cat month