From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri Sep 28 19:58:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1829110B7FA5 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2018 19:58:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd33.google.com (mail-io1-xd33.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d33]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ACFED802F8 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2018 19:58:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd33.google.com with SMTP id y3-v6so5062785ioc.5 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2018 12:58:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Yvdzx7rstul//WharUddaraXgShnABkhdBsSXYM3H/8=; b=vMDC0dTQQTQRRloyYj+KkK/9qJjL1NpatkMqTN+5Enj5Rk//Jfdl70ypO0khIa4doF HZMVPPdk4yu3iCvebdRfdm8p02NXmiDiq3BGBB0nzOUoHI9WvdQPl13e4d1/qoZagwEG 0eOXXFeK7W03QP42H/7RKfngXN7n6p5AR3X7mK5x9ewz3PDfm/D/RdwSCSHMJ3S/192X BJLfCPXq8+kg1ckGscyI8OrW9qXDAcZQku8Jiqy5DTwK68M1AevV9LUB5rdkqZqEGJ8D Iqfy1+tNVct1114jr/gZ4qH84cyoEgW/vjRB6gGBt9YgAmdRVWSfNgyGxc8W3r5MwLRF JY2A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Yvdzx7rstul//WharUddaraXgShnABkhdBsSXYM3H/8=; b=Du3L+m4ocaEhnkDs9G0Ybksb3THeYvVPBOMR+sriDUmeWarQ4K7XBJch7LDpcNnmaY JV5Wbl9VLnBySa0V6sNAFAtEC6MMPuR4fee9rp309NzqY9hAYU3OvKYkYA9HZj6+fF2m KQBcFec1tjoK/S6A5EBiJN3gtUqftC53SdO0rZ90DXTgOGaB2NV/D8xAwDeXuFuRWKrR cmSIbWcWNl/gkoeATmR2TsBB6McC3f5+ZLVDyHO+FX23gBSDmMukmagFWJXV6ctt2Ew9 C0R7Qg8y4zqeGcvGXoQd8Dw1fu0GL2lmNtsWrqfPc5Z9HFWtCYhJMoRdGGZ9k9hJ4t+3 laUA== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfohl+CqvELtnkmt9a9zOsCjnSEBumIR55LirjBxzfONcNlCRCklu 7l2H+ioWYzSghM/wKwHRGbKu939d1bxcvLLnxOF9We96 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV63SGqhXSpzFv/D9EIdgnFs9LzURx0V5S1UI0rzn3Xx+EJmcXGxHR4Jx/rRqjIdxUFV7EKlikaFX8Jl2zfIPb/Q= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:e702:: with SMTP id b2-v6mr133674ioh.37.1538164717680; Fri, 28 Sep 2018 12:58:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20180928180002.GA957@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <20180928180002.GA957@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> From: Warner Losh Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 13:58:26 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: drm2 in base To: Steve Kargl Cc: FreeBSD Current Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 19:58:39 -0000 On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 12:01 PM Steve Kargl < sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote: > > At the risk of raising the ire of others, but with the pending > branching for FreeBSD 12, I respectfully request that drm2 > remain in head after the branch. The current plans, which are still being finalized, are to turn off drm and drm2 by default only. Once we're sure that all the kinks have been worked out with the ports, we'll move to remove some or all of drm/dmr2, but that's some months away. Some parts will likely remain for arm, however. > I have a radeon HD 6450 video > card (CAICOS firmware), and have been informed that the hardware > is too old for graphics/drm-stable-kmod and that I should use > graphics/drm-legacy-kmod. > > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2018-September/021680.html OK. Well, I have spent a day or so trying to get drm-legacy to work. > drm-legacy in its current state is not a drop in replacement > for drm2 in head. Given what I have found and reported in the > above URL, I'm inclined to believe that I may have been the > first person to actually try to use drm-legacy. > What's missing? > I'll also note that the warning about abandonware is > misleading for older harware. > The first part is totally true: it is absolutely abandonware. > drmn0: ======================================================= > drmn0: This code is obsolete abandonware. Install the \ > graphics/drm-stable-kmod pkg > drmn0: ======================================================= > drmn0: Deprecated code (to be removed in FreeBSD 13): drm2 drivers > drmn0: ======================================================= > drmn0: This code is obsolete abandonware. Install the \ > graphics/drm-stable-kmod pkg > drmn0: ======================================================= > I could add a 'or the drm-legecy-kmod' to the end as well. We do that by default for 32-bit platforms. Warner