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Date:      Sat, 02 Apr 2022 21:10:55 +0000
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Subject:   [Bug 251117] [NEW PORT] www/palemoon: Open-source web browser
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Matt A. Tobin <email@mattatobin.com> changed:

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--- Comment #99 from Matt A. Tobin <email@mattatobin.com> ---
Here is something from my IRC logs that may confirm the status of BSD in Pa=
le
Moon despite what Moonchild has been saying since I was kicked to the curb.

It does not show me in the best light but it happens to be true.

Mar 02 03:23:52 <Moonchild> NewTobinParadigm: I'm dropping FreeBSD on the
floor. I'm really just done with it. Especially if the one that is supposed=
 to
liaise between a reluctant platform team and use is leveraging the OpenBSD =
BS
that doesn't even apply to their platform or their team just to keep the
opening to build the way they want anyway.
Mar 02 03:24:29 <Moonchild> If you insist you can still talk to them and do
stuff independently but I think that's a bad idea as well, if we can't even
keep one line ourselves.
Mar 02 04:49:46 <NewTobinParadigm> no i agree
Mar 02 04:50:09 <NewTobinParadigm> but like i said in the PM.. we can put i=
t in
the drawer if someone else pops up
Mar 02 04:50:27 <NewTobinParadigm> or maybe one of the shitter bsds comes to
call
Mar 02 04:51:36 <NewTobinParadigm> i just think IF we ever were to allow BS=
D in
the future it needs to be done from the perspective of what is needed now n=
ot
the compromises from 10-15 years ago hacked and rehacked and never properly
tested by core mozilla
Mar 02 04:55:11 <NewTobinParadigm> Moonchild
Mar 02 04:55:36 <Moonchild> Yes i agree
Mar 02 04:55:51 <Moonchild> and he clearly stated that he wasn't going to do
that anyway somewhere in his essay
Mar 02 04:55:56 <Moonchild> so fuck it.
Mar 02 04:56:42 <NewTobinParadigm> it is amazing how he went all out on the
anti-Tobinism all without me saying a word since last year
Mar 02 04:56:53 <NewTobinParadigm> shattered his own illusion without a word
from me
Mar 02 04:57:09 <Moonchild> the overly long post really pissed me off, by t=
he
way. it's cleverly written, and clearly Olce is a good conversationalist, b=
ut I
can't rhyme it with what's needed to cooperate
Mar 02 04:57:50 <NewTobinParadigm> yeah but to me it was basically..
sun-glasses point by point with charmcitycrab pointlessness
Mar 02 04:58:22 <Moonchild> if he can take a long time to compose what he d=
id,
he should also be willing to put in the legwork code-wise. unless that's
actually not his forte in which case he can't do what he says he wants to
Mar 02 04:58:41 <Moonchild> so there are so many approaches to it that all =
come
to the same conclusion, and I'm just dropping it. period.
Mar 02 04:58:52 <NewTobinParadigm> target operating systems need to be
maintained by those familiar with it
Mar 02 04:59:03 <Moonchild> exactly
Mar 02 04:59:11 <Moonchild> and I was very clear that was needed
Mar 02 04:59:40 <Moonchild> which resulted in a barf of sociopolitical BS a=
nd
semi-covered attacks on all of us.
Mar 02 04:59:54 <NewTobinParadigm> you made an absolutely good play by
including my contributor roll with my community interaction stepback it
encouraged him to not only question it but attack harder
Mar 02 04:59:56 <NewTobinParadigm> masterful
Mar 02 05:00:06 <NewTobinParadigm> role*
Mar 02 05:00:21 <Moonchild> Like I said I was still probing to see.
Mar 02 05:00:33 <NewTobinParadigm> Probe Complete.

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