From nobody Sat Apr 2 21:16:09 2022 X-Original-To: ports-bugs@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0651A540D5 for ; Sat, 2 Apr 2022 21:16:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4KW8wV52W8z3KMb for ; Sat, 2 Apr 2022 21:16:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D55D10C9C for ; Sat, 2 Apr 2022 21:16:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 232LGAur025674 for ; Sat, 2 Apr 2022 21:16:10 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 232LGA7P025673 for ports-bugs@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 2 Apr 2022 21:16:10 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: ports-bugs@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 251117] [NEW PORT] www/palemoon: Open-source web browser Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2022 21:16:09 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Ports & Packages X-Bugzilla-Component: Individual Port(s) X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: feature, needs-patch, needs-qa X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: email@mattatobin.com X-Bugzilla-Status: Closed X-Bugzilla-Resolution: Overcome By Events X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: ports-bugs@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: maintainer-feedback+ maintainer-feedback? 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Tobin --- (In reply to Matt A. Tobin from comment #99) A days prior as well.. Feb 25 07:41:42 Moonchild: I am not at all willing to wo= rk with any BSD without a commitment from them to actually work with us. I also want to remove ALL BSD support from gre as it stands today and have THEM add BACK support in a more proper way ala SunOS.. The issues of Pale Moon brand= ing is no longer my public consern but they shall not have any permission to use BinOC branding and associated applications. Put their fuckin money where th= eir mouth is=20 Feb 25 07:41:42 and re-do freebsd support from the groun= d up or fuck off and die like the communists they are. Feb 25 07:42:45 In my opinion, OlCe1 has already proven = to not be a serious contender for this endeavor. Someone else must lead this charge. Someone who is reasonable. Feb 25 07:43:27 Oh I agree. I'm just still probing to see what's going on. Feb 25 07:43:41 i figured you would for the most part. Feb 25 07:43:57 Just wanted to make sure there was a cur= rent crystallized statement from me. Feb 25 07:44:07 And he himself said he's not sure whether all t= he BSD code paths are even necessary, so that aligns exactly with what you wou= ld want. Feb 25 07:44:29 But I'm not pouring all that out in one go. I h= ave to know details from them. Feb 25 07:45:00 I believe they once were .. 15 years ago= .. in general i think that is true and our plans to prefer XP_UNIX except wher= e it is necessary to get more specific is a good one for our general stability a= nd code clarity Feb 25 07:45:15 Yup Feb 25 07:45:48 take the Tobin Factor out of the equation and it rings of actually being fair and proper to all unixes I think Feb 25 07:45:48 I'm just letting them know a compromise and BSD support in our tree is possible -- but haven't said anything about HOW that= 's going to be done. Feb 25 07:46:06 except mac :P Feb 25 07:46:10 which is fake-unix=20 Feb 25 07:46:14 Mac can fuck off Feb 25 07:46:17 so can OpenBsd Feb 25 07:46:40 i will ONLY support freeBSD because all the oth= er ones have been excessively hostile Feb 25 07:47:01 i'd be willing to facilitate openbsd if = one person one user was man enough to do their best and not get railroaded by t= heir bsdpeers Feb 25 07:47:01 not in the least by keeping dragging in that one openBSD github issue -every-fucking-where-they-could Feb 25 07:47:07 and that was unnecessary Feb 25 07:47:16 No, OpenBSD can fuck off Feb 25 07:47:22 I will not have it after that Feb 25 07:47:47 and they are being special snowflakes anyway th= at will require a lot of extra complexity. just look at the code in our tree. Feb 25 07:47:54 so no, it's not feasible Feb 25 07:48:08 openbsd has some very strange oddities internal to them that freebsd doesn't=20 Feb 25 07:48:10 i do know that Feb 25 07:49:32 it is such a shame that xp users have ru= ined the "xp" designation cause to me "xp" as cross platform is so important to = me Feb 25 07:50:32 Yeah, I don't think we should support OpenBSD under any circumstances. Sorry I've not been paying much attention lately, = been focused on the news a lot. Feb 25 07:50:55 it's fine. Feb 25 07:51:09 three core libs that must never be system imo for us is nspr nss and libpng the rest is negotiable as I see it though= the bar for justification remains high Feb 25 07:51:28 unless you can think of one Feb 25 07:51:32 likely cairo as well Feb 25 07:51:46 cairo was fucked over recently too Feb 25 07:51:52 I remember Feb 25 07:52:12 and it will never be solved because of t= he way Mozilla has bypassed fucked up code paths Feb 25 07:52:32 exactly Feb 25 07:53:19 luckily if freebsd gets their shit toget= her they should be less anxious about the netscape libs.. cause since we got nss-gyp we can keep pace with esr at the very least.. they can't arguge with that and hold water --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.=