Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:25:32 -0400 From: "Martin Mactaggart" <martinm@visualedge.com> To: <freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: remembering last keystrokes + net q Message-ID: <006001bf157e$6ec7be70$a600a8c0@visualedge.com>
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Personally, I've used redhat & openlinux (gee, simple to install, no c
compiler by default, and it crashes a lot... Just like Windows, neat, ummm,
yeah) and kind of like FreeBSD better... Just a personal thing... I find
you're more likely to be forced to recompile the kernel, but that doing it
is a much easier / more reliable process for someone somewhat unix
illiterate like me...
As for X, you have tried doing a post install configure using
/stand/sysinstall's X config thing (in the post-install configuration)
n'est-ce-pas? The hardest part, in my experience, is finding a refresh
rate/colour depth/resolution combo that both your monitor and your graphics
card like at the same time... Make sure you have your monitor's
specifications in hand (H & V refresh rates) and whatever you do, don't
choose 24bit colour; go with 32bit or 16bit... Something about the way X
allocates colours makes apps think they have 32bit and then panic when they
realize they don't (I think (usually reverting to monochrome)).
It'd help to know what the error msg you get when it crashes is... You
might also want to look at .xclients and .xsession in your ~ ($HOME)
directory; make sure they look something like the following:
gnome-session &
exec your_window_manager
I think the "gnome session &" part might be optional.
You might also try asking freebsd-questions instead of newbies, you'll
get an answer who's likelyhood of being right is much greater, but be sure
to include your error msg and keep it short and to the point (well, that's
my experience anyway).
BTW, I've always found X much nicer when you install ttf support (12
butt ugly fonts is not my idea of pretty), you probably already know this,
but if you install xfsftt from your CD (I don't think it's on CD #1 though),
modify the font paths in your XF86Config file to include (at the end of the
list) "unix:/7100" (or was that "unix/:7100"?) and then create the file
rc.local in your /etc dir with 'echo "starting true type font server \n" ;
xfstt &' in it, you can use ttf fonts like the rest of the not-unix world.
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg W <redhat_list@hotmail.com>
To: <martinm@visualedge.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 4:59 AM
Subject: Re: remembering last keystrokes + net q
Thanks , was exactly as I was after, I am used to bash as default, gotta see
if I can get used to the BSD thing (used to RH)
was a pain retyping commands whilst building first kernel :-)
I cant get X to run properly either, any tips there ? it fires up but dies
cause there is no gnome-session ???
I am not sure here as have not played with X a lot, as have always had
running from default installs .....
>From: "Martin Mactaggart" <martinm@visualedge.com>
>To: "Greg W" <redhat_list@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: remembering last keystrokes + net q
>Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 12:03:20 -0400
>
> use the command "chsh" (which will invoke "vi" on your profile file,
>type "man vi" if you don't know how to use vi) to change your shell to
>"bash" or maybe "tcsh"... It's not FreeBSD that is/sin't remembering your
>keystrokes but rather it is your shell interpreter which manages said
>behaviour...
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Greg W <redhat_list@hotmail.com>
>To: <FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>
>Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 9:15 AM
>Subject: remembering last keystrokes + net q
>
>
>Hi all
>
>Not sure if its the keyboard setup or if I need to edit a file, but how do
>I
>get FreeBSD to remember the x number of last commands typed so I can scroll
>through them ?
>
>I have a few network questions to follow, but I want to get X working first
>to see what tools are there
>
>I know ifconfig is for adding net routes etc, not sure where I specify
>gateways, nameservers etc , i take it there is a graphical tool or menu
>driven one
>
>Thanks all
>
>Greg
>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Personally, I've used redhat & openlinux (gee,
simple to install, no c<BR>compiler by default, and it crashes a lot... Just
like Windows, neat, ummm,<BR>yeah) and kind of like FreeBSD better... Just a
personal thing... I find<BR>you're more likely to be forced to recompile the
kernel, but that doing it<BR>is a much easier / more reliable process for
someone somewhat unix<BR>illiterate like me...<BR><BR> As for
X, you have tried doing a post install configure using<BR>/stand/sysinstall's X
config thing (in the post-install configuration)<BR>n'est-ce-pas? The
hardest part, in my experience, is finding a refresh<BR>rate/colour
depth/resolution combo that both your monitor and your graphics<BR>card like at
the same time... Make sure you have your monitor's<BR>specifications in
hand (H & V refresh rates) and whatever you do, don't<BR>choose 24bit
colour; go with 32bit or 16bit... Something about the way X<BR>allocates colours
makes apps think they have 32bit and then panic when they<BR>realize they don't
(I think (usually reverting to monochrome)).<BR><BR> It'd help
to know what the error msg you get when it crashes is... You<BR>might also want
to look at .xclients and .xsession in your ~ ($HOME)<BR>directory; make sure
they look something like the following:<BR><BR>gnome-session &<BR>exec
your_window_manager<BR><BR> I think the "gnome session &"
part might be optional.<BR><BR> You might also try asking
freebsd-questions instead of newbies, you'll<BR>get an answer who's likelyhood
of being right is much greater, but be sure<BR>to include your error msg and
keep it short and to the point (well, that's<BR>my experience
anyway).<BR><BR> BTW, I've always found X much nicer when you
install ttf support (12<BR>butt ugly fonts is not my idea of pretty), you
probably already know this,<BR>but if you install xfsftt from your CD (I don't
think it's on CD #1 though),<BR>modify the font paths in your XF86Config file to
include (at the end of the<BR>list) "unix:/7100" (or was that "unix/:7100"?) and
then create the file<BR>rc.local in your /etc dir with 'echo "starting true type
font server \n" ;<BR>xfstt &' in it, you can use ttf fonts like the rest of
the not-unix world.<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: Greg W <<A
href="mailto:redhat_list@hotmail.com">redhat_list@hotmail.com</A>><BR>To:
<<A
href="mailto:martinm@visualedge.com">martinm@visualedge.com</A>><BR>Sent:
Wednesday, October 13, 1999 4:59 AM<BR>Subject: Re: remembering last keystrokes
+ net q<BR><BR><BR>Thanks , was exactly as I was after, I am used to bash as
default, gotta see<BR>if I can get used to the BSD thing (used to RH)<BR>was a
pain retyping commands whilst building first kernel :-)<BR><BR>I cant get X to
run properly either, any tips there ? it fires up but dies<BR>cause there is no
gnome-session ???<BR><BR>I am not sure here as have not played with X a lot, as
have always had<BR>running from default installs .....<BR><BR><BR>>From:
"Martin Mactaggart" <<A
href="mailto:martinm@visualedge.com">martinm@visualedge.com</A>><BR>>To:
"Greg W" <<A
href="mailto:redhat_list@hotmail.com">redhat_list@hotmail.com</A>><BR>>Subject:
Re: remembering last keystrokes + net q<BR>>Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 12:03:20
-0400<BR>><BR>> use the command "chsh" (which will
invoke "vi" on your profile file,<BR>>type "man vi" if you don't know how to
use vi) to change your shell to<BR>>"bash" or maybe "tcsh"... It's not
FreeBSD that is/sin't remembering your<BR>>keystrokes but rather it is your
shell interpreter which manages
said<BR>>behaviour...<BR>><BR>><BR>>----- Original Message
-----<BR>>From: Greg W <<A
href="mailto:redhat_list@hotmail.com">redhat_list@hotmail.com</A>><BR>>To:
<<A
href="mailto:FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG">FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG</A>><BR>>Sent:
Tuesday, October 12, 1999 9:15 AM<BR>>Subject: remembering last keystrokes +
net q<BR>><BR>><BR>>Hi all<BR>><BR>>Not sure if its the keyboard
setup or if I need to edit a file, but how do<BR>>I<BR>>get FreeBSD to
remember the x number of last commands typed so I can scroll<BR>>through them
?<BR>><BR>>I have a few network questions to follow, but I want to get X
working first<BR>>to see what tools are there<BR>><BR>>I know ifconfig
is for adding net routes etc, not sure where I specify<BR>>gateways,
nameservers etc , i take it there is a graphical tool or
menu<BR>>driven one<BR>><BR>>Thanks
all<BR>><BR>>Greg<BR>><BR>>______________________________________________________<BR>>Get
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