From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Jan 20 13:58:12 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CD854F6CB1 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 13:58:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=Efj8N1=GX=codenetworks.net=sm@eigbox.net) Received: from bosmailout09.eigbox.net (bosmailout09.eigbox.net [66.96.184.9]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DLRtq59z2z4lZB for ; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 13:58:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=Efj8N1=GX=codenetworks.net=sm@eigbox.net) Received: from bosmailscan08.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.8]) by bosmailout09.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1l2Dzs-0001pV-AN for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 08:58:09 -0500 Received: from [10.115.3.33] (helo=bosimpout13) by bosmailscan08.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1l2Dzr-0000NZ-3g for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 08:58:07 -0500 Received: from bosauthsmtp03.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.20.18.3]) by bosimpout13 with id K1y32401r03yW76011y6j7; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 08:58:07 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=Ep1JURUA c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=6uKCkKhFq2wXOH2GoQX8aA==:117 a=BXB5eCltbCg0Q+nSw1Bwcw==:17 a=EmqxpYm9HcoA:10 a=jXMol9EDn2QA:10 a=13zjGPudsaEWiJwPRgMA:9 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=68TiLBT2nmH7sNCOSEgA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=gH7hWQfftoCltWxL3N4A:9 a=FfaGCDsud1wA:10 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 Received: from cm-81-9-160-236.telecable.es ([81.9.160.236]:7928 helo=[192.168.1.100]) by bosauthsmtp03.eigbox.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1l2Dzn-0000eq-PH for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 08:58:03 -0500 Subject: Re: Waiting for bufdaemon To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <1d675d77-8bdb-c285-ffa2-28330b839734@alvermark.net> <60599f75-7206-9269-ac0c-934f8f31ae26@gwdg.de> <3885bc2a-3924-cc3f-6cad-99dc6f803b0d@gwdg.de> From: Santiago Martinez Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 13:58:01 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bjkR96Rl37SlEUWAAWUHSJZAsqDaYUsWd" X-EN-UserInfo: d3bdfab0736480cedf04ed92aaea2ef5:931c98230c6409dcc37fa7e93b490c27 X-EN-AuthUser: sm@codenetworks.net Sender: Santiago Martinez X-EN-OrigIP: 81.9.160.236 X-EN-OrigHost: cm-81-9-160-236.telecable.es X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DLRtq59z2z4lZB X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.10 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:66.96.128.0/18:c]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[codenetworks.net:~]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[sm@codenetworks.net,SRS0=Efj8N1=GX=codenetworks.net=sm@eigbox.net]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[81.9.160.236:received]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:+,3:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:29873, ipnet:66.96.128.0/18, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[sm@codenetworks.net,SRS0=Efj8N1=GX=codenetworks.net=sm@eigbox.net]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[66.96.184.9:from]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,multipart/mixed,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[codenetworks.net: no valid DMARC record]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[66.96.184.9:from:127.0.2.255]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[1.000]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[66.96.184.9:from]; R_DKIM_PERMFAIL(0.00)[codenetworks.net:s=dkim]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[66.96.184.9:from]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 13:58:12 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --bjkR96Rl37SlEUWAAWUHSJZAsqDaYUsWd Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="WGDCUzb3ODMOA9cVG0hXe2jsea8gxbbv1"; protected-headers="v1" From: Santiago Martinez To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: Waiting for bufdaemon References: <1d675d77-8bdb-c285-ffa2-28330b839734@alvermark.net> <60599f75-7206-9269-ac0c-934f8f31ae26@gwdg.de> <3885bc2a-3924-cc3f-6cad-99dc6f803b0d@gwdg.de> In-Reply-To: --WGDCUzb3ODMOA9cVG0hXe2jsea8gxbbv1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-US Hi Everyone, i have exactly the same behavior as Rainer described. "After a high system load, several programs only react very slowly (e.g. Firefox)......" I will try with the patch and see if it also clear this on my machine (AMD R7). Santiago On 1/20/21 1:52 PM, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 02:35:59PM +0100, Rainer Hurling wrote: >> Am 20.01.21 um 14:12 schrieb Konstantin Belousov: >>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 01:56:57PM +0100, Rainer Hurling wrote: >>>> Am 20.01.21 um 13:34 schrieb Konstantin Belousov: >>>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 01:17:51PM +0100, Rainer Hurling wrote: >>>>>> Am 20.01.21 um 11:18 schrieb Konstantin Belousov: >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 11:02:21AM +0100, Jakob Alvermark wrote: >>>>>>>> This patch hides the problem for me. The system seems to work be= tter now. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No waiting on reboot, and the webcam works better. >>>>>>> I am curious what do you mean by the above reference to webcam. >>>>>>> Can you explain it with more details, even if only the impression= s? >>>>>> I should mention, that beside the already discussed timing problem= with >>>>>> bufdaemon, I also have problems with several apps: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> After a high system load, several programs only react very slowly = (e.g. >>>>>> Firefox). Several dockable apps from WindowMaker, but also e.g. co= nky do >>>>>> not update their windows anymore, they freeze. After some time, Fi= refox >>>>>> updates its screen content only after switching back from another = window ... >>>>>> >>>>>> When such frozen programs are killed and restarted, they run norma= lly >>>>>> again for an indefinite time before they freeze again. >>>>>> >>>>>> These symptoms completely disappeared, after I patched the Ryzen b= ox as >>>>>> suggested on 01/17: >>>>> Do you load latest microcode update from devcpu-data? >>>> Yes, sysutils/devcpu-data is installed and the following to lines ar= e in >>>> /boot/loader.conf >>>> >>>> cpu_microcode_load=3D"YES" >>>> cpu_microcode_name=3D"/boot/firmware/intel-ucode.bin" >>>> >>>> But isn't this just for Intel (i387 and amd64), not AMD cpus? >>> You need microcode_update_enable=3D"YES" in /etc/rc.conf for late mic= rocode >>> update. >>> >>> I think that early boot update should work on AMD, bit for this you n= eed to >>> select and put right blob. It is enough to load late to answer my qu= estion. >> Ah, ok. Thanks for clarification. I also put cpu_microcode_load=3D"YES= " in >> /etc/rc.conf for a late update. >> >> Should I try again without your patch of sys/x86/tsc.c, whether the >> problem still occurs? > Yes. > >> >> And for the early boot update, how do I know about the right blob? > I am not aware of the mechanism. My best suggestion is that you match > the blob against your CPU family/model id manually. > >>>>> It might be not enough, which means that additionally latest BIOS n= eeds >>>>> to be flushed. >>>>> >>>> I am running latest Firmware F31 on a "Gigabyte\ Aorus\ X570\ Elite"= >>>> mainboard. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --WGDCUzb3ODMOA9cVG0hXe2jsea8gxbbv1-- --bjkR96Rl37SlEUWAAWUHSJZAsqDaYUsWd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="OpenPGP_signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="OpenPGP_signature" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- wsF5BAABCAAjFiEEk06QWJzNAs9NTrFjWBFqYkyC55EFAmAINukFAwAAAAAACgkQWBFqYkyC55F0 CQ/9GJQm0YagKdb+Vfrp/Fhb6iQ3e/ZDM6Qgvg3UwvcrOq4XBib+aHekMkTNz+N5oiuaaJBA1tUJ W2m9l3s9oMTdgwn6SyDUrhVRL3bP/luhwegCk2AapDeqU6GpWi1a6xB7NI9GFCnfjY1WsQZw01O3 11qWG0jppJJ0ZFi30YTJLeMMp8Wf7yQU/njMzDMNrNLG9Ways+QPhX99gcP7nlpMfYc5qomUeBcH HSznvraamzHJODx+e3itnlckA+uBdgRcT7aToZ2tjF+jYgyu/R7R3rU6xGxlS1ouhxGJbG3bFXw7 XLdxXXxtWM1hFlMJM80GZdCyftM9elwTw2vf+9WlOGnHtFNKlGnkjM7jjUKpvrRqxFX46izD2KIs lt+W85UIhjAgH2xuU6arULSu7OpXMW9Eykxeob0GR5YzwBdd3gJ86MEkRdqYe27sePfciSj/j4zD 8P8DHqWKn7Xx9QBdRUaQxk7gBSEFucKRofPTO6nLi6ArAcqvQYrZTlVt5svFCwXEwEOXFtTyGU5h tariH8G9RYODgjkjo+t9L+IFi6epgQfgEHVmf9W0quB5q2ociOkQWMG4s/hhdLnv7FB0NvJ1kBGL IXEFmKXb2vUmh5M20xNoG5PGIPpATxOyiGXn5AZTrErSUfo+9qbs9tNA6qz9Fia7Y59VwMHXUTGO vwM= =FHEO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bjkR96Rl37SlEUWAAWUHSJZAsqDaYUsWd--