From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 30 22:53:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B8D5CBE for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 22:53:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmagda@ee.ryerson.ca) Received: from eccles.ee.ryerson.ca (eccles.ee.ryerson.ca [141.117.1.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65CF92A57 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 22:53:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.2.5] (76-10-131-223.dsl.teksavvy.com [76.10.131.223]) (authenticated bits=0) by eccles.ee.ryerson.ca (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r9UMmXvk057110 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 30 Oct 2013 18:48:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dmagda@ee.ryerson.ca) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Subject: Re: Stale NTP in FreeBSD From: David Magda In-Reply-To: <20131028042000.GA1455@rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 18:48:34 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <99C2F370-F611-47EC-9EFA-8015F5E39C08@ee.ryerson.ca> References: <20131028042000.GA1455@rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au> To: John Marshall X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 22:53:34 -0000 On Oct 28, 2013, at 00:20, John Marshall = wrote: > The version of ntp in FreeBSD has been 'legacy' since December 2009 > (almost 4 years ago). Is there a technical reason why we are stuck at > 4.2.4 or is it simply lack of volunteer resources? Perhaps ntp (and > some of the other imported software in the base) is just not on > anybody's RADAR? I know I can "use the port" if I want a current > version of ntp, but I can't see the point of shipping superseded stuff > in the base without good reason. Given the lack of response, it looks like new features and new imports = may be better directed at freebsd-current@. For your specific question: FreeBSD is a mostly-volunteer project, with = some corporate sponsorship. It looks like no one is willing to volunteer = their time on a new version of NTP, and no company is willing to pay = someone to look into it. Going to the NTP software, the most recent version that is called = "production" is 4.2.6p5 from 2011-12-24, which isn't that much newer = than what's currently there: http://www.ntp.org/downloads.html http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Main/SoftwareDownloads As it stands, the last person to really touch the NTP code in FreeBSD is = roberto@, and that was three years ago: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/contrib/ntp/ http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/vendor/ntp/ Unless you're willing to submit patches, he may be your best starting = point to see if he's willing to pick up the torch again. --=20 David Magda=