From owner-svn-ports-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 16:09:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 009C32F3; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 16:09:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from theravensnest.org (theraven.freebsd.your.org [216.14.102.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cloud.theravensnest.org", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA3831B65; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 16:09:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.7] (cpc14-cmbg15-2-0-cust307.5-4.cable.virginm.net [82.26.1.52]) (authenticated bits=0) by theravensnest.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s3KG9LRt009830 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 20 Apr 2014 16:09:23 GMT (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) Subject: Re: Commit logs for 2014/04/11 From: David Chisnall In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 17:09:19 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20140412035900.3C695121E45@apnoea.adamw.org> <20140420092922.GA90642@FreeBSD.org> <20140420101807.GA7694@FreeBSD.org> <438AB9043DFB0608A926F949@atuin.in.mat.cc> To: Adam Weinberger X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) Cc: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, Alexey Dokuchaev , svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, Mathieu Arnold , Bryan Drewery X-BeenThere: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 16:09:35 -0000 On 20 Apr 2014, at 17:05, Adam Weinberger wrote: > Wait, hold on... if the purpose of @sample is to automatically create = real.conf files and delete them when appropriate, without end-user = intervention, then end-users should never be interacting with .sample = files in the first place. The user may still want to refer to the .sample file so that they can = see what the defaults are, whether anything has changed, and so on. > The goal shouldn't be properly-named .sample files, it should be never = clobbering conf files and ensuring that end-users never have to copy = sample files themselves. @sample should strive to always be MORE = permissive, not LESS! Integrating something like etcupdate that did a three-way merge with pkg = would indeed be very nice... David