From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 31 11:39:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Delivered-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D762C16A4E1; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:39:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from helge.oldach@atosorigin.com) Received: from mizar.origin-it.net (mail.de.atosorigin.com [194.8.96.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1779443D49; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:39:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from helge.oldach@atosorigin.com) Received: from matar.hbg.de.int.atosorigin.com (dehsfw3e.origin-it.net [194.8.96.68]) by mizar.origin-it.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/hmo020206) with ESMTP id k7VBdUmf011369 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:39:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from helge.oldach@atosorigin.com) Received: from galaxy.hbg.de.ao-srv.com (galaxy.hbg.de.ao-srv.com [161.89.20.4]) by matar.hbg.de.int.atosorigin.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/hmo020206) with ESMTP id k7VBdU1c070564; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:39:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from helge.oldach@atosorigin.com) Received: (from hmo@localhost) by galaxy.hbg.de.ao-srv.com (8.9.3p2/8.9.3/hmo30mar03) id NAA23217; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:39:29 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200608311139.NAA23217@galaxy.hbg.de.ao-srv.com> In-Reply-To: <16259775.365821157023067281.JavaMail.root@vms076.mailsrvcs.net> from Sergey Babkin at "Aug 31, 2006 6:17:47 am" To: babkin@users.sf.net Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:39:28 +0200 (MET DST) From: Helge Oldach X-Address: Atos Origin GmbH, Friesenstraße 13, D-20097 Hamburg, Germany X-Phone: +49 40 7886 7464, Fax: +49 40 7886 9464, Mobile: +49 160 4782077 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: trhodes@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-src@freebsd.org, gad@freebsd.org, ru@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, des@des.no Subject: Re: "Chatty" config files in /etc X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:39:54 -0000 Sergey Babkin: >>From: Tom Rhodes >>> I think they should be moved to /usr/share/examples/etc/ (like >>> make.conf), with files in /etc/ representing good (short) defaults >>> with a minimum of comments and probably references to examples. >I don't think anything should be moved, nor "chattiness" removed. >It's a great convenience, to find the examples right in >the config file, and one of the great things about FreeBSD. Absolutely, I fully agree, backed by FreeBSD sysadmin experience since 2.1.6. IMHO mergemaster provides a great tool to properly deal with upgrades of such "default" files, particularly since the addition of the -U option. Helge