From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Jan 28 18:23:25 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F308A72000; Thu, 28 Jan 2016 18:23:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E27911B1; Thu, 28 Jan 2016 18:23:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from FreeBSD.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED6F1088; Thu, 28 Jan 2016 18:23:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 18:23:22 +0000 From: Glen Barber To: Slawa Olhovchenkov Cc: NGie Cooper , Thomas Mueller , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Packaging the FreeBSD base system with pkg(8) Message-ID: <20160128182322.GP98557@FreeBSD.org> References: <20160127223323.GG98557@FreeBSD.org> <183431.62409.bm@smtp111.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20160128131806.GB67200@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <20160128160622.GB88527@zxy.spb.ru> <20160128173836.GD88527@zxy.spb.ru> <3A5AAF2B-F9CF-41B3-A97C-FF208803428A@gmail.com> <20160128181253.GE88527@zxy.spb.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="L/bWm/e7/ricERqM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160128181253.GE88527@zxy.spb.ru> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT amd64 X-SCUD-Definition: Sudden Completely Unexpected Dataloss X-SULE-Definition: Sudden Unexpected Learning Event X-PEKBAC-Definition: Problem Exists, Keyboard Between Admin/Computer User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 18:23:25 -0000 --L/bWm/e7/ricERqM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 09:12:53PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > I see two hudge problem for support upgrades from older RELEASE > versions (supported too): key (used for repo signing) change and need > to access ports packages to install (installed outdated release can't > find pkg packet for install). >=20 > Can you more detailed describe current propolsal of new packaging > system? pkg is part of base installed packages? Or after installing > base packages pkg installed from `ports`? For disc1.iso case. >=20 > How handled boot/device.hints and var/db/etcupdate? >=20 > How handled boot block updates? These are all valid questions, but let's take a step back for a bit, and not put the carriage in front of the horse. The initial email in this thread was intended to provide an update on the status. Some things, such as file merging, is already in place in a few of the packages. Not all, yet. Unexpected things are going to happen. That is the only thing that is a guarantee right now. In other words, implementation (from what is now in the project branch) may change. And yes, there needs to be a way to upgrade from older releases. But let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. Glen --L/bWm/e7/ricERqM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJWqlyaAAoJEAMUWKVHj+KTVicP/0qKQKXQ0o7/X8AHAxBLJX47 NgMm0Gc5Qznl6kWuN9uLBkFZAc14K7JffH6B90zSH2ShmLjVfQGOdpSfw8N9rK8z nwvegj5oHce6bii+DDB3vmp19BdKMDHXEIRZpev7lpZSm52d2rVUNuJXiy9tB/6o 2otfpm3uivsrherebUFvfcjLFIWpzXK9UXMMA1cR9WBAxlpQEgsaMYexIavngDbT kycH4+QG/AbIQ/Seyl5IgGN9HFYbamzdU2VIhoRCcHEqWMefU3xqOWMm2xYvNDZU 6pkx7gfwld1NQFJYdqrwFftvehUktUASw9MtNuBUJ+fqpMATNIQUWr1sOw8UGDYk wfdX4GO8F8O669eTdDnfWnsfl1Et2MECE8mZNUdlgXFxmPAfTRSGr47qpBVgzTS9 OozClYj/dDQ6wIcXksYBFFTetnJOiPb9sa06lCV6qFnAlMcKF39iIEjkV4xu1yAJ 6M+dlZSTZlXPubrCPrcbw+ug+6alK+FymwgQWBMFikU8WTfq74M/KoQbGNFUKYkh rvR6g1F5pN3VnjMl1GD28TYQfI22ZUPg385/HS9pV6vXQhRQJ2egrbsrgkmVwTTT zdS+wFDOSagtPy1g5tsTuK+9j8VlmAePQYKTU/znJ6UOVZtwkoWmvkU3OpgX72lI aQPTUtqZ6KT4TVdNh+me =hmjF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --L/bWm/e7/ricERqM--