From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Fri Nov 3 03:50:11 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A1BE6AEE4; Fri, 3 Nov 2017 03:50:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "troutmask", Issuer "troutmask" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B489F762AF; Fri, 3 Nov 2017 03:50:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id vA33oA8A089328 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 2 Nov 2017 20:50:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id vA33oABE089327; Thu, 2 Nov 2017 20:50:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2017 20:50:10 -0700 From: Steve Kargl To: Bryan Drewery Cc: FreeBSD Toolchain , freebsd-hackers , FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: Head build unsafe for /etc today Message-ID: <20171103035010.GA89291@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Reply-To: sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu References: <3045EEBF-09E6-4209-B54F-2F95394DBA82@FreeBSD.org> <20171103014907.GA88522@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <68BECDA4-C182-436E-854C-C3B19ABB4373@FreeBSD.org> <20171103022327.GA88659@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <998FF503-D4B0-4AD5-AD55-98680E4D66CA@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <998FF503-D4B0-4AD5-AD55-98680E4D66CA@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2017 03:50:12 -0000 On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 07:41:21PM -0700, Bryan Drewery wrote: > > Are you accusing me of lying? > Nope. I'm stating the obvious. If you are using META_MODE and you do "make buildwould" that is equivalent to "make -DNO_CLEAN buildworld", which means you did not rebuild the *world*. When I see a commit message of the form (and I've haven't seen one like this in 25+ years of using FreeBSD (aka 386BSD+patchkit)) Author: bdrewery Date: Thu Nov 2 22:23:00 2017 New Revision: 325347 URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/325347 Log: Something is very wrong Modified: head/Makefile Modified: head/Makefile ============================================================================== --- head/Makefile Thu Nov 2 21:58:18 2017 (r325346) +++ head/Makefile Thu Nov 2 22:23:00 2017 (r325347) @@ -1,3 +1,4 @@ +.error Bad revision, please wait for a fix in head It suggests that whomever did the commit did not properly test the patch. The use of META_MODE (or any other shortcut) when testing simply isn't proper testing. -- Steve