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Date:      Sun, 20 Aug 2000 01:54:54 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Matthew Jacob <mjacob@feral.com>
To:        Darren Reed <darrenr@reed.wattle.id.au>
Cc:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com>, freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Integration of Net/OpenBSD code (was Re: your mail)
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.21.0008200146500.16034-100000@zeppo.feral.com>
In-Reply-To: <200008200842.SAA07457@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au>

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> Personally, I think it is more important for FreeBSD to concentrate
> on getting IA-64 (and AMD 64bit) support happening than for sparc64
> and that sparc64 is a waste of time/effort for FreeBSD.  Concentrate
> on what FreeBSD is good at doing and don't get distracted.

I can't say I quite agree. There are approaches that the Alpha/FreeBSD port
took that are an interesting spin on things not available in the NetBSD alpha
port. I think it will be quite interesting to see a NewBus implementation on
sparc, and whether that will make an E10K port easier. I rather think so.

I guess I'm saying that in FreeBSD there is some fundamentally good
multi-platform technology not available in NetBSD, which is quite surprising
because most of FreeBSD hasn't the slightest clue about multi-platform issues.

Personally, I think a FreeBSD SPARC port for the large scale 64 bit machines
will happen, and should happen. I should think that major FreeBSD customers
like Yahoo expect and deserve it. I don't believe that they are going to
switch to NetBSD. I don't think FreeBSD should waste 30 seconds on non-64 bit
sparc machines either.

I don't think that this is a distraction from IA64 at all as the same folks
are very unlikely to be working on both ports. In any case, it will only
happen when somebody with the focus and moxy and time to do it busts loose the
~2 months it will take to do. If I had the time, I sure might, but I don't
(I'm trying to reduce the number of things I've promised to others for months
first).

-matt




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