From nobody Thu Nov 23 08:01:27 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SbVtg3hxGz526sP for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 08:01:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivier.freebsd@free.fr) Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr (smtp2-g21.free.fr [IPv6:2a01:e0c:1:1599::11]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4SbVtf5vhqz3X15 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 08:01:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivier.freebsd@free.fr) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=free.fr header.s=smtp-20201208 header.b=auW3QgH1; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of olivier.freebsd@free.fr designates 2a01:e0c:1:1599::11 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=olivier.freebsd@free.fr; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=free.fr Received: from ravel.localnet (unknown [90.118.140.172]) (Authenticated sender: olivier.freebsd@free.fr) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F2CC32005A0 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 09:01:27 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=free.fr; s=smtp-20201208; t=1700726488; bh=AT3KgmvXuZrmndU6m18FNKdv/YS9cgVKbHUcl1VjhLM=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=auW3QgH1uj77NqGKK2wVPlL+3kKnS1cK2Nd8Ba5H2uAmlucx0ELOZkv0VSnvqFyNE Q3pQ7AhvGH5cu5WzFGZ42fiDBC0cNd46ZiHMUJYQEVIrnKBgQWcTEmCZL/Xt3qHHPQ ObBv0XxOBVcmc0lE9zzSYBqE8S8vl1/zIJ7Y0bM/Z1vod0v1KIyHJ2aEEblBXYNdhE 9vcjVc2tiU4ZcOCiNYkSIXZig5dkRnoawvi2Rlk9A/urqlbiFETNhLruqSzbji065y Ht+AavTuSu8DsRe7dDnLn7TvL9lIMsPJCvBa92TRcb5YwJ6vxyY6VqPuPfS9vzLhJA +UdbtzfSjeUxg== From: Olivier Certner To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I am sick and tired of the poor quality of documentation on FreeBSD Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 09:01:27 +0100 Message-ID: <1781224.E1bnfOMcs6@ravel> In-Reply-To: References: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.90 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; CTE_CASE(0.50)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[free.fr,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a01:e0c:1:1599::11]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[free.fr:s=smtp-20201208]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[free.fr:dkim]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[free.fr]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[free.fr:+]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[free.fr]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12322, ipnet:2a01:e00::/26, country:FR]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4SbVtf5vhqz3X15 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Hi, > Another fun gotcha is if you use zpool send+zpool receive to write a > backup of a boot disk to removable media instead of writing the > datastream as a file to the backup media, you get to learn about the fun > of when your backup mounted in place of the live system because its > properties said for it to be mounted there. I make modifications to zfs > properties on the receiving side to fix that and some other > issues+desires but suspect there are more things I have to learn in this > space. I've also been bitten by this a few times a while ago. You may want to look at option '-R' in zpool-import(8), even if I agree it's not ideal since it has to be applied at each import, whereas we would like it to be so automatically to avoid foot-shooting. Regards. -- Olivier Certner