From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 12 23:37:32 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 089F715D9C63 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2019 23:37:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lee@adminart.net) Received: from mo6-p00-ob.smtp.rzone.de (mo6-p00-ob.smtp.rzone.de [IPv6:2a01:238:20a:202:5300::12]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "*.smtp.rzone.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5886B91796 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2019 23:37:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lee@adminart.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1562974647; s=strato-dkim-0002; d=adminart.net; h=References:Message-ID:Date:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From: X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH:From:Subject:Sender; bh=InALW9Evv9xR8fI4zdszpm5zAuYKfts78ykERL2K14w=; b=nzU+n0HCD1wHafoGveOkC+iNTRE5FFs7NPjxRGeoY6Rfhw2i++O5Psn23NxRADCwV0 9/v4fIxpcUOU2KL8Nb6BIUBHGk4arj+6hb/Volni0aYufarqXvgc2SfolaKZ29dtiyPH dSnhIEvWEsXyYKRVW+3vbMceJZBD/83lAjr/unxlIpYATv5gwlc5p5GtXDI40j9Y1Fy0 SdD0I7u9IS0vn3IFX2QiYqAkuyOao01EMDxa9zebreHuPyNJr3uIZ9SOgaMUsOnELb48 1I4qY+dchrztrQchMYWsqfYa4UPOKwTXWIjDl9Yh873BKEM1OXU8oym6084MO7mVBrwu QrXA== X-RZG-AUTH: ":O2kGeEG7b/pS1FS4THaxjVF9w0vVgfQ9xGcjwO5WMRo5c+h5ceMqQWZ3yrBp+ARdaXvxIDf7nlw=" X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Received: from himinbjorg.adminart.net by smtp.strato.de (RZmta 44.24 DYNA|AUTH) with ESMTPSA id e0059dv6CNbQPFB (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (curve secp521r1 with 521 ECDH bits, eq. 15360 bits RSA)) (Client did not present a certificate); Sat, 13 Jul 2019 01:37:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from toy.adminart.net ([192.168.3.55]) by himinbjorg.adminart.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1hm56U-000243-EJ; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 01:37:26 +0200 Received: from lee by toy.adminart.net with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1hm56U-0001dv-AD; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 01:37:26 +0200 From: hw To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dead slow update servers In-Reply-To: <20190712193831.fee9ee60.freebsd@edvax.de> (Polytropon's message of "Fri, 12 Jul 2019 19:38:31 +0200") Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 01:37:05 +0200 Message-ID: <87r26uhns9.fsf@toy.adminart.net> References: <87sgrbi3qg.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <20190712193831.fee9ee60.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 5886B91796 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=adminart.net header.s=strato-dkim-0002 header.b=nzU+n0HC X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[adminart.net:s=strato-dkim-0002]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[adminart.net]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: smtpin.rzone.de]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[adminart.net:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.15)[-0.154,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[hw@adminart.net,lee@adminart.net]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[2.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.3.5.2.0.2.0.a.0.2.0.8.3.2.0.1.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6724, ipnet:2a01:238::/32, country:DE]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[hw@adminart.net,lee@adminart.net]; IP_SCORE(-0.74)[ipnet: 2a01:238::/32(-3.27), asn: 6724(-0.40), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 23:37:32 -0000 Polytropon writes: > On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 19:04:23 +0200, hw wrote: >> Hi, >> >> are you guys seriously expecting users to download packages they want to >> install at speeds around 25kb/s? I'm already annoyed about them being >> painfully slow when downloads are 1000 times faster than that. > > I've just tested with unaltered default settings, and I get > varying speeds of 1 - 1.5 MB/s. A whole desktop system update > (download, extraction, installation) didn't require more than > 15 minutes. > > However, a download speed of 25 kB/s definitely looks like > something is wrong... It's what I got, and there don't seem to be a lot of servers, and none of the ones I tried was any different. The download speed was jumping about from 8--300 at the extremes and more like 25 on average. >> Unless there is a solution to this problem, I will probably give up on >> trying out freebsd right away because usage in production even on my >> servers at home, let alone at work, simply won't be feasible. > > Before you can check for a solution to a problem, you need to > identify the actual problem. Is it within your network, or is > some server you're downloading from too slow? This should be > easy to find out if you provide some information, for example, > which mirror you're using, the exact command you use to update, > and so on. Other downloads were not affected; I tried the default update... and update<1..4>... servers; I used 'pkg install emacs-nox'. That same command showed reasonable download speeds with Trueos, which I tried afterwards. It probably uses different servers, like pkg.trueos.org. > Also keep in mind that if you're performing your update at the > same time many other users are doing it, the individual speed > will of course go down. This wasn't an update but a new installation made today. Once installed, I wanted to add stuff I usually use and see how far I would get with installing a web server and maybe a database ... BTW, how come that lower version numbers apparently give you more recent software, like 11.x being ahead of 12.x? --