From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 16:45:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC74216A4D0 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:45:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from corserv.corserv.com (tx-65-40-201-169.sta.sprint-hsd.net [65.40.201.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AB8243D31 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:45:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kevin_lyons@ofdeng.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (cygni.corserv.com [192.168.1.3]) by corserv.corserv.com (8.12.11/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i9PHkLXE013267; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:46:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kevin_lyons@ofdeng.com) Message-ID: <417D2C5D.3040901@ofdeng.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:39:57 -0500 From: Kevin Lyons User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Hummers References: <20041024191235.L1580-100000@cakes.towanda.bsd> In-Reply-To: <20041024191235.L1580-100000@cakes.towanda.bsd> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RedHat: Buffer Overflow in "ls" and "mkdir" X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:45:03 -0000 >But a shadow still falls on my computing experience when I try to tell > civilians how I avoid Microsoft without a Macintosh. "Uh, well, it's > _like_ Linux, but ... well, it's Unix." "Eunuchs!!? O-kay, well, see ya > later..." In this day and age, if they don't know what Unix is, then they deserve to live in the Microsoft ghetto. Everyone is not ready to drive a 1000hp F1 race car. Most users belong in a 50hp compact car. Trying to dumb down the race car so grandma can drive it is about as effective as trying to dumb down linux ala redhat and friends. In general, users get what they deserve; which is to say spyware, viruses, microsoft email clients such as outhouse that don't work properly with imap, active X taking over their computer, corporate windoze servers that measure uptime in hours, etcetera.