From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 10 21:07:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C92B916A4CE for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 21:07:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from building.weird.com (building.weird.com [204.92.254.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FDC843D2F for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 21:07:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from woods@building.weird.com) Received: from localhost (2266 bytes) by building.weird.com via sendmail with STDIO (sender: ) (ident using UNIX) id for ; (dest:remote)(R=bind_hosts)(T=inet_zone_bind_smtp) Fri, 10 Dec 2004 16:07:39 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2.0.121-Pre 2004-Aug-27 #1 built 2004-Nov-1) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 16:07:39 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Face: ;j3Eth2XV8h1Yfu*uL{<:dQ$#E[DB0gemGZJ"J#4fH*][ lz; @-iwMv_u\6uIEKR0KY"=MzoQH#CrqBN`nG_5B@rrM8,f~Gr&h5a\= To: Wilko Bulte In-Reply-To: <20041210202803.GI90137@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20041210202803.GI90137@freebie.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 21.3.1 Organization: Planix, Inc.; Toronto, Ontario; Canada cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FYI, no-go with booting FreeBSD-5.3 on AlphaServer ES40 X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Greg A. Woods" List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 21:07:43 -0000 [ On Friday, December 10, 2004 at 21:28:03 (+0100), Wilko Bulte wrote: ] > Subject: Re: FYI, no-go with booting FreeBSD-5.3 on AlphaServer ES40 > > FreeBSD does not even support 4GB so don't moan... :-P Sigh.... Any ES40 with fewer than 4 memory options installed (i.e. 8GB _minimum_) is a huge waste of space, energy, and money. With just 2 RAM options installed (i.e. 4GB minimum), the machine is way under-utilized and can only achieve 1/2 its memory throughput. With just one RAM option installed (i.e. 2GB minimum), the machine crawls at 1/4 its potential memory throughput. There are many better, faster, cheaper, smaller, types of systems available if one does not need to break the 4GB 32-bit address space boundary. I.e. I guess FreeBSD doesn't really truly support the ES40 (or anything bigger) at all. You should definitely not list them as supported! I'm sure anyone else familiar with Alphas would make the same assumption as I have that the full RAM configurations of any supported machine would work -- that's the whole reason for wanting a 64-bit address space in the first place! > But surely not on 16G RAM. BUT, that's only half-way to where we want to go with 32GB installed... -- Greg A. Woods +1 416 218-0098 VE3TCP RoboHack Planix, Inc. Secrets of the Weird