From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 27 08:00:59 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C814F0AEA for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 08:00:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DQbdQ24ctz3MqG for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 08:00:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from fews1.riseup.net (unknown [10.0.1.83]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DQbdJ6RfszFgvn for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 00:00:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1611734452; bh=hLu95XZCl/rHpEDvW2dddw6tKAYu+KIey9GGwhlev08=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=iHHQNw0xaWF2LaOGRoEePJmfmpca+aLgMR+t4PvWOhmR8+X1W/1jZlqieAkBY6+iw rifV6VP3mk/MwZBGBKy3FG9iBdUb9WN1hBcGoknOYR+n7o0jDbqIqEG3ZXxZG2CGE1 LU+pnirhMiawmzh9fzmuiAO1zkDju95raT2ylt0Q= X-Riseup-User-ID: B232FE0B8A4467C41CA4C04438AE1726DB071A53FF0988D0BE6D1475D9F2C6A5 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4DQbdJ24gfz5vjG for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 00:00:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 09:00:38 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg crashes several times a day Message-ID: <20210127090038.4b6252aa@archlinux> In-Reply-To: References: <56586dc9179211205d9eb5ad03f8ae2c834b8809.camel@riseup.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DQbdQ24ctz3MqG X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=iHHQNw0x; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ralf-mardorf@riseup.net designates 198.252.153.129 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ralf-mardorf@riseup.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.60 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[riseup.net:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[riseup.net,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[198.252.153.129:from]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[riseup.net:s=squak]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[riseup.net:dkim]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from:127.0.2.255]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 08:00:59 -0000 On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 14:19:58 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: >I wish I had an easy way to disable this gvfs automounting stuff in >FreeBSD's Xfce or Mate, then I'd probably switch to sysutils/automount >or something like that. mv /path/to/gvfs/file_1_2_3_n /getoutoftheway/path/to/gvfs/file_1_2_3_n Since by Xfce4 upstream gvfs is anyway just an optional dependency of Thunar, you should get rid of Thunar's trash support, mounting with udisk and remote filesystems. Mate upstream makes gvfs a hard dependency for Caja, but actually you can treat it as an optional dependency, too. It results in the same as for Thunar. You don't render Xfce4, Thunar, Mate or Caja useless, you just get rid of gvfs "features". The same as for Mate and Caja applies to Cinnamon and Nemo, Gnome and Nautilus and any other Xfce4, Mate, Cinnamon or Gnome app that "depends" on gvfs. If you mv or rm gvfs related files or as I do, if you don't install them in the first place, it breaks absolutely nothing, even if apps where build against gvfs. I've got one or the other app installed by a Linux package, that was build against, IOW with gvfs and just replace the gvfs package by a package, that does include nothing. This package only fakes that gvfs is installed to fool the package management.