From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 19:26:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA2F16A4CE for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2004 19:26:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from snafu.adept.org (adsl-67-117-158-73.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [67.117.158.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118A343D2D for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2004 19:26:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@adept.org) Received: by snafu.adept.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9B0C59EEE8; Fri, 5 Mar 2004 19:26:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snafu.adept.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 679E49B148 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2004 19:26:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 19:26:43 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Hoskins To: advocacy@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20040305164650.2de84cad@vixen42.> Message-ID: <20040305190804.H65624@snafu.adept.org> References: <200403051009.20729.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> <9C6E1232-6EED-11D8-9CD3-000A959A1868@mac.com> <20040305164650.2de84cad@vixen42.> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: open source challenges (was Re: FreeBSD Most wanted) X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 03:26:59 -0000 On Fri, 5 Mar 2004, Vulpes Velox wrote: > For itunes? what part do you want? exporting? well we can do that far > bloody better... nfs, smb, and then there is some awesome streaming as a closet musician, i wish there was a good fbsd audio solution. there's not, really, and that's no fault of fbsd's. (because there aren't good one's - imco - for linux either, which has much more commercial buy-in at this point.) assuming you actually get your high-end audio card recognized (mine aren't even supported), you either don't find the tools you need (because there's no real incentive to develop them for free) or you find tools which mostly work, but produce sub-standard output quality. (that's even a problem with many windoze-based solutions costing $$$.) again, that's absolutely nothing against fbsd... i don't even consider itunes a "real" audio package. (only audio newbies would, imco.) this all has very little to do with fbsd, related advocacy, etc. and more to do with open source as a whole. i'm sure more open source apps will come down the road over time, but acting like certain areas aren't lacking seems pointless. so what's the end result? it's not that i decide to write my own audio solution and device drivers for fbsd (wish i had the time), but instead i use different tools for different tasks. when i want a server or workstation, i use fbsd. when i want to create audio, i turn to windoze or macos. not because i love using those operating systems, but because when i do use them i'm in a mood to create audio/video and not spend five hours tweeking OS settings just to get sub-standard output. that's a challenge open source faces in many areas... it's not just about developing tools, but developing tools that actually make people go "yeah, i'd rather use that". -m