From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 22 14:18:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F2F16A420 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:18:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phelms1@mindspring.com) Received: from pop06.mail.atl.earthlink.net (pop06.mail.atl.earthlink.net [207.69.200.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41E443D53 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:18:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phelms1@mindspring.com) Received: from dialup-4.227.193.48.dial1.denver1.level3.net ([4.227.193.48] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by pop06.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1E7D82-0004fy-00 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 10:18:23 -0400 Message-ID: <4309DEB5.8030809@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 08:18:29 -0600 From: Phil Helms User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org References: <20050822054110.GC6627@osiris.chen.org.nz> <430989AB.7090200@nefli.nl> <4309D516.6060004@mindspring.com> <4309D5FB.9040908@supsi.ch> In-Reply-To: <4309D5FB.9040908@supsi.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0534-0, 08/22/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: Starting with freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: phelms1@mindspring.com List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:18:25 -0000 Maybe I should restate the question. I have used FreeBSD 4.X (4.8 and 4.10) in the past, and have liked it. However, despite FreeBSD's capabilities, and the applications available to be run on it, it did not have a serious Java implementation. What I needed was an OS that I could use as a desktop platform to get work done. Because of the lack of decent Java support in FreeBSD, I decided to switch to Linux, which does have Java, and I'm now happy with what I have in Linux. Nevertheless, I have installed FreeBSD 5.4, and hope to be able to do something with it. If, because of the efforts of dedicated and talented developers, FreeBSD 5.4 and beyond is to have Java support, that would remove the main impediment to my use of FreeBSD as a desktop platform. Just the same, having to do compiles to get Java functionality is problematic. In Linux, the functionality is there without the need for compiling anything. My hope is that compilation to obtain Java functionality in FreeBSD will some day be a thing of the past, just as compilation is unnecessary for things like Gnome, KDE, Kontact, or Evolution. That would be good. Still, why is it Sun's fault? Please enlighten me. Roberto Nunnari wrote: > Phil Helms wrote: > >> If it's Sun's fault, why does Linux have Java? > > > Funny question.. BTW.. FreeBSD have a very good java > implementation. > > Thank you to all involved in porting java to FreeBSD! > -- Phil Helms phelms1@mindspring.com