From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 23 15:37:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D0216A420 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 15:37:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD0243D48 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 15:37:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 7734 invoked from network); 23 May 2005 15:37:48 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 7715, pid: 7732, t: 0.1447s scanners: clamav: 0.84/m:31/d:888 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 23 May 2005 15:37:48 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 90AF430; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:37:47 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Bob Perry to: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200505221429.58567.rperry@gti.net> <44sm0e133s.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <200505231120.29223.rperry@gti.net> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 23 May 2005 11:37:47 -0400 In-Reply-To: <200505231120.29223.rperry@gti.net> Message-ID: <44psvix8ac.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: Re: Confused with Refuse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 15:37:49 -0000 Bob Perry writes: > On Mon May 23 2005 9:30 am, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > > Bob Perry writes: > > > About to synch up the entire source tree with RELENG_5_4_0_RELEASE. > > > Earlier I created a refuse file, (/var/db/sup/refuse), when I upgraded my > > > doc and ports collection in 5.3 but remember reading somewhere that a > > > refuse file was not necessarily recommended when updating an entire > > > source tree. Is that still the case? > > > > You may not be able to build your own INDEX, and dependency-tracking > > packages may get confused if the INDEX doesn't match the installed > > ports, but things won't necessarily break. But you're on your own; > > please don't report problems unless you know they occur with a fully > > updated tree. > That's the sort of warning I remember. Just couldn't readily understand why > the Handbook still recommends creating it. It recommends refuse files for the doc tree, which is *very* useful, because most users only want one language. On the ports tree, it mentions that some people do it, but doesn't recommend it as a general policy. It will work a lot of the time, and the ports makefiles warn about having a complete ports collection before reporting certain kinds of errors.