From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 7 21:45:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A9616A4CE; Mon, 7 Mar 2005 21:45:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pinus.cc.fer.hr (pinus.cc.fer.hr [161.53.73.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE6A43D49; Mon, 7 Mar 2005 21:45:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ivoras@fer.hr) Received: from [161.53.72.113] (lara.cc.fer.hr [161.53.72.113]) by pinus.cc.fer.hr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id j27LjTJu010248; Mon, 7 Mar 2005 22:45:30 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <422CCB5B.80300@fer.hr> Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 22:44:59 +0100 From: Ivan Voras User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041213) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pawel Jakub Dawidek References: <20050307130330.GX9291@darkness.comp.waw.pl> <200503071609.j27G9mR1032489@grovel.grondar.org> <20050307205836.GZ9291@darkness.comp.waw.pl> In-Reply-To: <20050307205836.GZ9291@darkness.comp.waw.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New entropy source proposal. X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Security issues [members-only posting] List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 21:45:32 -0000 Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: > +> Er, not very random. > > Are you sure you used /dev/dspW? It give me really good results with my > sound card. Sound card noise REALLY depends on the type and age of the said hardware. In a good soundcard (traditionally, Creative Sound Blaster or whatever they're calling it now), the noise is fairly minimal to nonexistant (I'm saying this purely as as a user/listener, not RNG expert), while on mass-market hardware such as various AC97 cards, especially if older or embedded into notebooks, the noise is very apparent. It's also very annoying that DA hardware picks up various inteferences from surrounding buses - on many low end system moving a mouse, resizing windows or accessing disk drives will produce bursts of audiable noise.