From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Apr 30 14:52:31 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE012BFB61 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2020 14:52:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob@rancor.immure.com) Received: from rancor.immure.com (108-84-10-9.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net [108.84.10.9]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "darth.immure.com", Issuer "darth.immure.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49Cddp5CScz4tgL for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2020 14:52:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob@rancor.immure.com) Received: from rancor.immure.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rancor.immure.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 03UEqS0Z005817 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 30 Apr 2020 09:52:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bob@rancor.immure.com) Received: (from bob@localhost) by rancor.immure.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 03UEqRAg005816; Thu, 30 Apr 2020 09:52:27 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bob) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 09:52:27 -0500 From: Bob Willcox To: Scott Bennett Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updating from 11.3-stable to 12.1-stable? Message-ID: <20200430145227.GD1510@rancor.immure.com> Reply-To: Bob Willcox References: <202004301346.03UDkr12006318@sdf.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <202004301346.03UDkr12006318@sdf.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49Cddp5CScz4tgL X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of bob@rancor.immure.com has no SPF policy when checking 108.84.10.9) smtp.mailfrom=bob@rancor.immure.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.29 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[bob@immure.com]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.26)[ip: (0.13), ipnet: 108.64.0.0/11(0.05), asn: 7018(1.15), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[immure.com]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.83)[0.829,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[bob@immure.com,bob@rancor.immure.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7018, ipnet:108.64.0.0/11, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[bob@immure.com,bob@rancor.immure.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 14:52:31 -0000 On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 08:46:52AM -0500, Scott Bennett wrote: > On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 16:27:54 -0500 Bob Willcox wrote: > > > > Well, here are the steps that I took to upgrade my 11.3-STABLE system to > > 12.1-STABLE. May not be the best/most efficient but they worked for me > > and I thought someone else may benefit from them. > > > > 1) Make a backup of the current system > > 2) Delete everything in /usr/src, making certin to remove the files and directories > > that start with a dot ("."). > > 3) Delete everything in /usr/obj. > > 4) Download (via svn) the new FreeBSD release /usr/src to be updated to. > > 5) Build the new world from the source. > > 6) Build the new kernel from the source. > > 7) Run "mergemaster -Fp" to update files that may be needing update prior to > > doing the installworld. > > 8) Run "make installworld" in /usr/src. > > 9) Run "make installkernel" in /usr/src. > > 10) Run "mergemaster -iU" do update any remaining files that need to be updated. > > 11) Reboot the system. > > 12) Run "pkg update" to update the pkg database to the new system's level. > > 13) Run "pkg upgrade" to update all packages to reflect the new system's level. > > 14) Reboot the system. > > > If you did things as you state and it worked, you got lucky. Your step 7) has > to be run in /usr/src, just like 8) and 9) and 10). 8) and 9) appear above in > reversed order. Also, you omitted 8.5). Steps 8) through 9) should have been: Yes, step was run from /usr/src. I just failed to point that out. I was still in that directory after the builds completed. As for the order of installworld and installkernel. I used to run them in the order you suggest but found that, as I recall, doing the installkernel first didn't always work when I had the nvidia driver specified in my /etc/src.conf file. The details are a bit hazy now, but by installing world first the nvidia driver was successfully built from ports during the installkernel step. > > 8) Run "make installkernel" in /usr/src. > 8.5) Reboot. IFF this new kernel comes up correctly, then proceed to step 9). > 9) Run "make installworld" in /usr/src. > > Not doing it like this runs a grave risk of needing to restore the system from > backups to make it usable again. The last time I looked at it, the Handbook > laid this procedure out clearly. Well, as I have said, perhaps I've been incredibly lucky for these past 20+ years that I've been doing it this way as I have had no such incidents. I don't doubt that there are risks, just updating a system carries some pretty significant risks. Guess I sorry I said anything about this...didn't mean to get people riled up. Bob > > > Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG > ********************************************************************** > * Internet: bennett at sdf.org *xor* bennett at freeshell.org * > *--------------------------------------------------------------------* > * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * > * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * > * -- a standing army." * > * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * > ********************************************************************** -- Bob Willcox | It's possible that the whole purpose of your life is to bob@immure.com | serve as a warning to others. Austin, TX |