From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 7 19:02:53 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA16800 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:02:53 -0700 Received: from dvals1.larc.nasa.gov (dvals1.larc.nasa.gov [128.155.4.96]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAB16794 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:02:51 -0700 Received: (from branson@localhost) by dvals1.larc.nasa.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA14401; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 22:02:23 -0400 From: Branson Matheson Message-Id: <199509080202.WAA14401@dvals1.larc.nasa.gov> Subject: Re: 2.1.0-RELEASE To: chuckr@Glue.umd.edu (Chuck Robey) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 22:02:22 -0400 (EDT) Cc: e.knight@ix.netcom.com, partek@indecent.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Chuck Robey" at Sep 7, 95 09:22:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 3033 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > > > > > > >They say it is comming out this month. However, It will take Walnut Creek > > Cdrom probably 3 to 4 weeks to get the CDs manufactured after the release is > > issued. Then If you are a subscriber you will be last in the queue to get > > the CDROM. I have been told by the folks at Walnut Creek that when they get > > product if someone calls in that their CDROM will be shipped the same day > > and that subscribers to the product have to wait for one mass pressing of > > the cdrom which costs them approximately $0.67 and they sell for $39 regular > > and $25 for subscription. Their attitude towards those of of us who have > > been supporting them through subscription is convoluted. Not Generally... and considering the resources that they allow us... that is an _extremely_ small price to pay. > > > > While I'm on a roll, I can't quite figure out where the dividing line > > between FreeBSD.org and Walnut Creek Cdrom is. Many of the "officials" of > > FreeBSD.org are employyees of Walnut Creek Cdrom. I have to ask the question: Why are you concerned about it? Quite frankly I have to say that that relationship is one of the most benefical things to come out of the support that WC gives us. And I think that it is great that the "officials" of FreeBSD.org also have a place to work that is sooooo much involved in our support. > > Ted, while it's possible for the relationship to be the way you describe, > past history shows it isn't so. FreeBSD has benefitted enormously by the > friendly ties with Walnut Creek. It doesn't take 3-4 weeks, at least it > hasn't for me, and exactly where do you think all this FreeBSD > development would be taking place, if not for Walnut Creek's machines? > Granted, there are other folks machines available, but not on that order > of donation. Have you logged into WCARCHIVE.CDROM.COM lately, and seen > how much machine is devoted to FreeBSD? There are some other cdroms > avilable that way, but FreeBSD dominates, both in disk space and (more > importantly) in network resources, expensive ones. AMEN!!! > > The only reason that I'm replying is because some folks, in reading your > post, and not knowing the history of the FreeBSD/Walnut Creek history, > might get the wrong idea. Your mysterious comment about a funny > relationship between some FreeBSD developers and Walnut Creek, well, it > bears an unpleasant similarity with scenes from the communist witch hunts > of the fifties. If you have complaints, be specific, don't hint at it. Agreed... certianly be specific here where you are certian to stir up a hornets nest of responses ;-) -branson -- MATHESON, E BRANSON E.B.MATHESON@LaRC.NASA.GOV Mail Stop 488 COMPUTER SCIENCES CORPORATION NASA Langley Research Center Assigned to Operations Support Division Hampton, VA 23681-0001 Phone +1 804 864-9700 http://longstreet.larc.nasa.gov/~branson/index.html