From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 31 12:07:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Delivered-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88FAD16A4DE; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:07:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rik@inse.ru) Received: from mail.inse.ru (inse.ru [144.206.128.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F9C043D4C; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:07:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rik@inse.ru) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (www.inse.ru [144.206.128.1]) by mail.inse.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F7AA33C4C; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:07:53 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <44F6D3B2.5080903@inse.ru> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:18:58 +0400 From: Roman Kurakin User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060813) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Helge Oldach References: <200608311139.NAA23217@galaxy.hbg.de.ao-srv.com> In-Reply-To: <200608311139.NAA23217@galaxy.hbg.de.ao-srv.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: trhodes@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, babkin@users.sf.net, cvs-src@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, ru@freebsd.org, gad@freebsd.org, des@des.no Subject: Re: "Chatty" config files in /etc X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:07:57 -0000 Helge Oldach wrote: > Sergey Babkin: > >>> From: Tom Rhodes >>> >>>> I think they should be moved to /usr/share/examples/etc/ (like >>>> make.conf), with files in /etc/ representing good (short) defaults >>>> with a minimum of comments and probably references to examples. >>>> >> I don't think anything should be moved, nor "chattiness" removed. >> It's a great convenience, to find the examples right in >> the config file, and one of the great things about FreeBSD. >> > > Absolutely, I fully agree, backed by FreeBSD sysadmin experience since > 2.1.6. > > IMHO mergemaster provides a great tool to properly deal with upgrades of > such "default" files, particularly since the addition of the -U option. > I suggest to make these files the way which would encourage peoples to keep example part, for example, under working part. Example will be still in the file, it will not bother admin, cause it do not cover essential part of the file, and will simplify merging. The initial working part could be merged while installation with example part, and this working part shouldn't be merged while subsequent updates. rik > Helge >