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Date:      Tue, 15 May 2001 13:24:12 -0400
From:      Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net>
To:        Holtor <holtor@yahoo.com>, FreeBSD-Stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Recent fxp Driver Changes
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20010515131843.03464600@marble.sentex.ca>
In-Reply-To: <20010515171734.28209.qmail@web11604.mail.yahoo.com>

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At 10:17 AM 5/15/01 -0700, Holtor wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>First i'd like to say i've used the fxp driver for
>years and years and its always worked flawlessly.

me too.


>Now, why in the world would we allow these commits
>to include common code and other things that obviously
>have broken things for many people.

Because people were asking "Why in the world is the driver not being 
maintained for modern versions of this obviously very important card". See 
the threads on -hackers for example.



>I like the suggestion someone else mentioned. fxp
>should
>be left alone. And a new driver created such as fxm
>for the fxp with mibus and those things.

me too, but I guess its up to someone to maintain a separate code base for 
the older code.


>What happened to the old saying?
>
>If it aint broke, then don't fix it?

I like this saying as well, but I guess to some people the code was broken. 
e.g. if you have an 815E MB, the code does not work with this driver.

Dont get me wrong, I too would love a perfect world where all the features 
of the Intel card (past, present and future) worked flawlessly.  But 
instead of condemning jlemon's efforts,  perhaps providing information as 
to what exactly is broken for you would get us all closer to that goal...

         ---Mike


>I'm a bit concerned over this. Our best driver has now
>turned into one of the worst troublesome drivers like
>the 3com xl0.
>
>Please put things back to normal! I beg of you!
>
>Holt
>
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