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Date:      Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:44:27 +1030
From:      "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
To:        "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Driver Update Disk discussion
Message-ID:  <200502251444.35329.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <20050224.204433.46658352.imp@bsdimp.com>
References:  <421E7867.9060101@samsco.org> <200502251348.06818.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <20050224.204433.46658352.imp@bsdimp.com>

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On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:14, M. Warner Losh wrote:
> : I think PORTS_MODULES is a little suboptimal..
>
> How so?

If you upgrade your ports tree and then rebuild your kernel you may upgrade=
 a=20
port KLD without wanting to.

> : Fx5200 Go). It also means that the kernel build/install does not result
> : in non kernel things being altered.
>
> How do your patches work?

http://www.dons.net.au/~darius/port-kld.diff
http://www.dons.net.au/~darius/port-makefile.txt

(Rename the later to Makefile and put it in /usr/local/kld)

It hooks into /usr/src/sys/modules/Makfile and looks for module directories=
 to=20
build in a certain directory. It [is supposed to] acts like another=20
subdirectory of /usr/src/sys/modules.

> Do they work with multiple kernel trees?=20

I am pretty sure it does but I haven't explicitly tested it - certainly the=
=20
source directory doesn't get dirtied by builds.

> I guess I'm a little unclear why this is better or worse than
> PORTS_MODULES.  I guess I'm missing the explicit step, since I only
> ever update the parts of my ports tree that I'm upgrading with
> portupgrade.

Ahh.. I NFS mount my ports tree between a bunch of machines they all have=20
WRKDIRPREFIX, and the ports tree is updated each day using cvsup.

I don't think this is an uncommon setup but I don't have any evidence.

> : Also speaking of KLD ports.. I really wish they wouldn't install
> : into /boot/modules (I patch so they don't) as it is a really good way to
> : shoot yourself in the foot during an upgrade :(
>
> Usually this is only a problem when tracking or jumping to current,
> but I understand...

Yeah usually, but I have had it happen in -stable too (very rare). Even so =
it=20
can be a pretty big waste of time as a developer when you're tracking=20
current ;)

=2D-=20
Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au
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