From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 22:37:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6257495B for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 22:37:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-f170.google.com (mail-pd0-f170.google.com [209.85.192.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 326E8935 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 22:37:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f170.google.com with SMTP id fp1so3905054pdb.15 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 14:37:15 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references:to; bh=iKyK2HwSXdOSYr/w6n8CJWSmYn1ISdQvbdPNV55+ZK0=; b=NTZCHXX5skwpbwBnkGUMeoUrkvfj7LVweP2RnMYeRR1yz46zY097t4d8ThuLZnLxzT HgIavbieh/B1+2cnZcFy5PbHgwj5N3mycHBiTjiW8HZaqHzO/wo6G7Pv83M+gRglyIsZ E9i/FRTiXx2qA+Fxm2Owzw3RsTOka2vBpqTEsZ8jP7SoR8E0qqwTkCPlGdOovotQhjBH hEyH/ZB9CT8f7vl8dMXuKX+HNQSofSs8jjWb56B5LqzRMb3DyXHGlOEyX56FXsXeEhRM gDv/KTOmeNNlgFsSu/sU8m47/hFtPMtQpOzc4pUnEdMDKHqWBvWcoyGbtxkAHXPLTpNj WtrA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk6vw6wqTWHypRi8Z1/FDz8wZ19wo3jU0vERswZkDu6tGUpXFUDKKvNeOPBj1kB12UWFrDi X-Received: by 10.68.68.197 with SMTP id y5mr1385154pbt.82.1416523035376; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 14:37:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.64.27.119] ([69.53.236.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id px9sm2914808pbb.84.2014.11.20.14.37.13 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 20 Nov 2014 14:37:14 -0800 (PST) Sender: Warner Losh Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C482C710-CB01-4158-AE8A-D63219028179"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: I'd like to axe some drivers From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <20141120220752.GI24601@funkthat.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 15:37:10 -0700 Message-Id: <573D346B-3AB8-4EC7-A03F-1B2B1291A5BC@bsdimp.com> References: <201411201631.27556.jhb@freebsd.org> <20141120220752.GI24601@funkthat.com> To: John-Mark Gurney X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Cc: arch@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 22:37:16 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_C482C710-CB01-4158-AE8A-D63219028179 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Nov 20, 2014, at 3:07 PM, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > I'm fine w/ removing these... Should we do some house cleaning on > amd64's GENERIC too? >=20 > amd64's GENERIC has a lot of ISA or 100Mbit ethernet cards that are > clearly not going to be used on these machines... >=20 > My recommended list to remove: > ae, bfe, dc, fxp, hme?, pcn, rl, tx, vr, wb, xl, cs, ed, ex, ep, fe, > sn, xe All the PC Card ones (cs, ed, ex, ep, fe, sn, xe) are no brainers to = remove from GENERIC. hme is a Sparc-centric card, so can go. The CardBus ones (dc, fxp, rl, re and xl) are less no-brainerish. Older = 64-bit laptops have only CardBus, and some have these built-in. Since these = types of systems are rare, and rarely NFS boot, having them as modules is = likely fine. Of the others, only pcn may be relevant enough to stay. At one time it = was in there because one of the virtualization programs (qemu? virtual box?) = had that as its default network config. Warner --Apple-Mail=_C482C710-CB01-4158-AE8A-D63219028179 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJUbm0WAAoJEGwc0Sh9sBEAa/cP/jhK2R08n/CQLGvDukmkQx4+ iekvuJJmcruerSsi50HUHz3fqurSjXNGzaOu1+/MR7ueMu25WpDTS1u2ufs8s33E FSqKyigx3wPDEeaJLNzHSX0eVx89cHLpG0huuHV1/EwV2CWKQ1Zpfn5LYzPsEavx b1YPrlF5sI25jgj1doglzbvyEiIBQJBjCaQHPXfWSfSRaSEhtsw4MAG2FXAhXeuB My0OYwmx3s0ijK6T1vMjP6DYvIINh9scKbzuPpz7yd7KktGEKkSpyKSovRlO0GYF HAhsyqXBmswvO8mSHFeIutFLSFQwwIiW83crFFqPz6LMlL8ePl0p+0yy0GpyB27j /cCYpJzLm/b1b2lkGRSVp+gU4JajPNgwFYN+or1qZttnTOqaZjCdjVIO9FU2vk4a PwJFJ6atRqYoYrsFexsx8Z9RGfVzQZCk73rY9SqwgH6r8tiRE2Wgw7pzDzcbG6C1 onYw//VxsznfopyN4SQ/3EZxTDuum4kyu99WK7DuV/8SkntOtmLrV70HY1wxsWMh K4PlegmRKUnUcHrwl9BGTysWE0WIYEEdsBU+Zg/YfZbf6MklQ4g8J469/DzHQMmz M5ZByB0TkjBjz6aPncO+wtGSFe0vbqdGrCRkhoK7OC198h2rSfSwf5WYKLasQRxE JweNGALIutTJvBULS5wA =/vg0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_C482C710-CB01-4158-AE8A-D63219028179--