From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 7 0:55:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from musse.tninet.se (musse.tninet.se [195.100.94.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E37637B4CF for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 00:55:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 10179 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2000 09:55:45 +0100 Received: from garibaldi.tninet.se (HELO algonet.se) (195.100.94.103) by musse.tninet.se with SMTP; 7 Nov 2000 09:55:45 +0100 Received: from kairos.algonet.se (kairos.algonet.se [194.213.74.201]) by garibaldi.tninet.se (BLUETAIL Mail Robustifier 2.2.1) with ESMTP id 141904.587345.973garibaldi-s1 for ; Tue, 07 Nov 2000 09:55:45 +0100 Received: (qmail 23201 invoked by uid 2493); 7 Nov 2000 08:55:44 -0000 Date: 7 Nov 2000 08:55:44 -0000 Message-ID: <20001107085544.23200.qmail@kairos.algonet.se> From: Mats Lofkvist To: msmith@freebsd.org Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <200011062226.eA6MQxF28518@mass.osd.bsdi.com> (message from Mike Smith on Mon, 06 Nov 2000 14:26:59 -0800) Subject: Re: Supporting "winmodems" (was: PCI Modems Not Shown As Supported Hardware) References: <200011062226.eA6MQxF28518@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Smith The inventor is too smart. Typically you *can't* return the damn things; either because the vendor (eg. Xircom) uses self-destructing packaging (so you can't return it in resaleable condition), or because it's integrated into your device and can't be removed, or because you've purchased it as part of a non-seperable bundle. My main point is that there is absolutely no meaning in complaining about lousy whatever if you aren't prepared to let the supplier know about it in a way he cares about. If it is a non-separable part of a package, return the whole package. If the supplier won't take it back for whatever reason, tell him politely that neither you, your company or your grandmother will buy anything from him again ever and throw the thing away. If you aren't prepared to return it (to the dustbin if necessary), just don't complain about it. By silently keeping the stuff you have decided to join the 'happy, paying customers' camp and nothing you say on a mailing list is going to change that. _ Mats Lofkvist mal@algonet.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message