From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Sep 2 19:24:43 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2783C7196 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 2020 19:24:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: from connect.ultra-secure.de (connect.ultra-secure.de [88.198.71.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BhYm96ttRz47K5 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 2020 19:24:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: (Haraka outbound); Wed, 02 Sep 2020 21:23:45 +0200 Received-SPF: SoftFail (connect.ultra-secure.de: domain of ultra-secure.de does not designate 217.71.83.52 as permitted sender) receiver=connect.ultra-secure.de; identity=mailfrom; client-ip=217.71.83.52; helo=[192.168.1.238]; envelope-from= Received: from [192.168.1.238] (217-071-083-052.ip-tech.ch [217.71.83.52]) by connect.ultra-secure.de (Haraka/2.6.2-toaster) with ESMTPSA id 7588B3A5-D6E7-4A36-8C13-74C6D34FFF34.1 envelope-from (authenticated bits=0); Wed, 02 Sep 2020 21:23:40 +0200 From: Rainer Duffner Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.15\)) Subject: Re: Plans for git (was: Please check the current beta git conversions) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 21:24:28 +0200 References: <20200902045939.GA15897@eureka.lemis.com> <20200902060117.GG53210@home.opsec.eu> <20200902063136.GA47543@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <7DA95AC3-853D-4C05-B5D8-E627095274FE@gmail.com> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <7DA95AC3-853D-4C05-B5D8-E627095274FE@gmail.com> Message-Id: <21C5C18A-AB92-4309-964E-EBE1D86AC1EC@ultra-secure.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.15) X-Haraka-GeoIP: EU, CH, 451km X-Haraka-ASN: 24951 X-Haraka-GeoIP-Received: X-Haraka-ASN: 24951 217.71.80.0/20 X-Haraka-ASN-CYMRU: asn=24951 net=217.71.80.0/20 country=CH assignor=ripencc date=2003-08-07 X-Haraka-FCrDNS: 217-071-083-052.ip-tech.ch X-Haraka-p0f: os="Mac OS X " link_type="DSL" distance=14 total_conn=10 shared_ip=N X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on spamassassin X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_SOFTFAIL,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Haraka-Karma: score: 6, good: 14332, bad: 313, connections: 16097, history: 14019, asn_score: 342, asn_connections: 486, asn_good: 382, asn_bad: 40, pass:asn, relaying X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BhYm96ttRz47K5 X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.62 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[ultra-secure.de]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.43)[-0.425]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.85)[-0.846]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.35)[0.355]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:88.198.0.0/16, country:DE]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.33 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2020 19:24:43 -0000 > Am 02.09.2020 um 18:22 schrieb Warner Losh : >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On Sep 2, 2020, at 10:14 AM, Ed Maste wrote: >>=20 >> On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 02:31, Steve Kargl >> wrote: >>>=20 >>>> A short intro on git for svn users: >>>> https://hackmd.io/ML5TSl8mQ5-27B5eqDf7YA?view >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> ROTFL. =46rom the "short intro", 2nd sentence. >>>=20 >>> New committers are assumed to already be familiar with the basic >>> operation of Git. If not, start by reading the Git Book. >>=20 >> This doc started as a direct translation of the Subversion primer, >> which has as its first sentence: >>> New committers are assumed to already be familiar with the basic = operation of Subversion. If not, start by reading the Subversion Book. >>=20 >> As with the Subversion primer the doc is intended to provide a quick >> reference for day-to-day commands, but not act as a reference or >> introduction to the entire theory of operation of the associated VCS. >=20 > The rest of the guide walks people through how to do the job, but = without all the theory for the basics. >=20 > Again it needs some work for the advanced topic it currently just = omits=E2=80=A6 >=20 Sorry, but I had to think of this: https://xkcd.com/1597/ The project was announced a while back in the quarterly status report = (that=E2=80=99s the first time I read about it at least). It=E2=80=99s obviously a huge undertaking, the people taking part in it = should be commended, not ridiculed (IMO). For people who don=E2=80=99t have much exposure to git, it can be very = obnoxious.=20 Though these days, a lot of people assume git=3Dgithub and the GUI there = certainly makes things easier. If it wasn=E2=80=99t completely riddled with security-holes, I would = recommend the project to run its own gitlab instance - but for a project = this size, you=E2=80=99d be looking at a FTE just herding that bag of = cats and constantly upgrading it=E2=80=A6 =20