From owner-freebsd-java Wed Mar 27 0:52:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from cafe.muraoka.info.waseda.ac.jp (cafe.muraoka.info.waseda.ac.jp [133.9.68.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F2737B416 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 00:52:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from muraoka.info.waseda.ac.jp (shudoh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cafe.muraoka.info.waseda.ac.jp (8.9.1a/3.7W) with ESMTP id RAA32487 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 17:52:34 +0900 Message-Id: <200203270852.RAA32487@cafe.muraoka.info.waseda.ac.jp> To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG From: shudo@computer.org Subject: Re: [press@apache.org: PRESS RELEASE: ASF Reaches Agreement with Sun to Allow Open Source Java Implementations] In-Reply-To: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452205FDA4EA@l04.research.kpn.com> References: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452205FDA4EA@l04.research.kpn.com> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 17:52:34 +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: "Koster, K.J." > > > Apache Software Foundation Reaches Agreement With Sun Microsystems To > > > Allow Open Source Java Implementations > > While it's excellent news for Java on FreeBSD in general, it won't actually > help the porting effort much. The press release talks about new open source > projects and not ports of Sun's code base. I'd like to keep my eyes on TCK. What I know about TCK is that a TCK is provided for Java technology like Java 2 SE, Jini, MIDP and so on. Generally, an API set for Java may have a TCK for it. As we know, only Greg can work on testing FreeBSD native Java 2 SDK with the TCK Sun provided and the SDK has to pass the TCK until it is released. This obligation is annoying us, but it's a positive fact that the TCK make the SDK solid and I'm sure the TCK is very important for compliance with the JVM specification. This announcement from Apache Software Foundation refers to availability of TCK (TCK is called `Test' Compatibility Kit but it may mean `Technology'). If we could access to the J2SE TCK, we can polish the JDK more rapidly. Furthermore, open-source Java implementations like GCJ, ORP and Jikes RVM can become stabler and more reliable quickly. But, I am not hopeful of wider availability of J2SE TCK. One concern I feel is that the JVM specification has not been defined along the JCP. It is possible the JVM is not covered by this announcement. Kazuyuki Shudo shudo@computer.org http://www.shudo.net/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message