From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 20 03:17:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D751065676 for ; Tue, 20 May 2008 03:17:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3182A8FC0A for ; Tue, 20 May 2008 03:17:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl105-70.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.224.70]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-1) with ESMTP id m4K3GwVt021235 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 20 May 2008 06:17:12 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4K3GwnE008134; Tue, 20 May 2008 06:16:58 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m4K3GufJ008133; Tue, 20 May 2008 06:16:56 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Jonathan McKeown References: <7d6fde3d0805190149y7a3bfa75j2ca6a67cef66e8f6@mail.gmail.com> <20080519094603.GC12033@osiris.chen.org.nz> <200805191240.47144.jonathan@hst.org.za> Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 06:16:55 +0300 In-Reply-To: <200805191240.47144.jonathan@hst.org.za> (Jonathan McKeown's message of "Mon, 19 May 2008 12:40:46 +0200") Message-ID: <874p8t8y1k.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: m4K3GwVt021235 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.86, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.54, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Now what would you expect this to print out? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 03:17:37 -0000 On Mon, 19 May 2008 12:40:46 +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > I forget where I saw this quote first, but the last five words always > make me think of the find command: > > Real Programmers consider "what you see is what you get" to be just as > bad a concept in Text Editors as it is in women. No, the Real Programmer > wants a "you asked for it, you got it" text editor - complicated, cryptic, > powerful, unforgiving, dangerous. The page at http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/real.programmers.html suggests that this quote is from ``A letter to the editor of Datamation, volume 29 number 7, July 1983.'' The author of that page writes ``I've long ago lost my dog-eared photocopy, but I believe this was written (and is copyright) by Ed Post, Tektronix, Wilsonville OR USA,'' so it may be a bit tricky to verify the claim.