From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sun Jul 12 05:05:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F189983D8 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2015 05:05:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from vps.rulingia.com (vps.rulingia.com [103.243.244.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "vps.rulingia.com", Issuer "CAcert Class 3 Root" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 86E29198C for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2015 05:05:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from server.rulingia.com (c220-239-242-83.belrs5.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.242.83]) by vps.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id t6C54o24007063 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2015 15:04:57 +1000 (AEST) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.rulingia.com (localhost.rulingia.com [127.0.0.1]) by server.rulingia.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t6C54i0f066524 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2015 15:04:44 +1000 (AEST) (envelope-from peter@server.rulingia.com) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.rulingia.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id t6C54ij6066523 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Jul 2015 15:04:44 +1000 (AEST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2015 15:04:43 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Will 10.2 also ship with a very stale NTP? Message-ID: <20150712050443.GA22240@server.rulingia.com> References: <20150710235810.GA76134@rwpc16.gfn.riverwillow.net.au> <20150712032256.GB19305@satori.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150712032256.GB19305@satori.lan> X-PGP-Key: http://www.rulingia.com/keys/peter.pgp User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2015 05:05:10 -0000 --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2015-Jul-11 23:22:56 -0400, Chris Nehren wrote: >On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 09:58:11 +1000, John Marshall wrote: >> It's me again with my annual NTP whinge. > >The answer to the perennial "will release $foo ship with old / insecure >/ otherwise deficient $bar?" is still "install $bar from ports". That's a non-answer. It just changes the question to "why bother to include $bar in base when I need to install the port anyway". --=20 Peter Jeremy --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJVofVrXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRFRUIyOTg2QzMwNjcxRTc0RTY1QzIyN0Ux NkE1OTdBMEU0QTIwQjM0AAoJEBall6Dkogs0ShcP/2txuC7bPW9Aq3dCxKBjoe+5 UZdb10z2+/jGl5d7f8Bx3tsHJDhyxW6fbA9gwjVMSbQ5FW0Y3y23mSWtQDBhkHGj DRcYR/pouOj3K899/eVYIjOJTuSGT3UOqdIEQIzuTaQUVRQcVREoV48Rl0eBTWne awhkH3DU+BcfOC+mbw2LnPqYYfQlfouv1WyH3m2fUdalVqbECEGwIDnlSBFrWm4A eEfhwyED6d6jVbPyv1//IlVeI3VDKl8Yr87v4wKayVNyRBj6PoGI1ZJAlJRrTyof 8A6Ye69jq4M3T40IS9261JbCEpIapFcqgcNGG2xXAxwsYU+MiD9IHSScKDPiZ93s FMY6j4heo4Iml1SrIXHdf9HmNovhiCvw0xhyWUIsiRL9UklwwVpGEoxXgmZdUOsB NYlqE04XCH3rbMcqwKuUHBaANkVPtpsUvgTs05sMOGGgRNndfR2eb4Z0zrhLYWKl dM/7Cnerybl1xvjcN9crC9Ymfd2q7CeoQNV6vpuWCB46Orx5LmapTVAhL5esDp1Q HPTfGaIpFoBNA3y33+uNU11dLwvb12UXa6na4O8UKX3I76aWcLC2k48gblup0nLt rAMx1QnQi78uBCigg+bqgsC3ojtEhKAfZ2CDC+JhAGkSXlp+2b/Q6+qB51dw4BLs lde9Fxo49GA4tu3aJ3aq =XrOY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS--