From owner-freebsd-jobs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 3 19:30:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E09816A4CE for ; Tue, 3 Aug 2004 19:30:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nvnsvch.org (nvnsvch.org [205.201.58.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E8243D46 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 2004 19:30:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gwen@nvnsvch.org) Received: by nvnsvch.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D3A688037; Tue, 3 Aug 2004 15:30:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 15:30:25 -0400 From: gwen To: richard childers / kg6hac Message-ID: <20040803193025.GA11876@nvnsvch.org> References: <20040801173709.GA33102@parodius.com> <410DD3EE.4020300@pacbell.net> <20040802093250.GA57641@parodius.com> <20040802183709.GB2726@night.dbn> <410EB15C.8000204@pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <410EB15C.8000204@pacbell.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: Diane Bruce cc: freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD Administrator LFW X-BeenThere: freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Jobs offered and sought List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 19:30:26 -0000 * richard childers / kg6hac (fscked@pacbell.net) [040803 15:04]: > I think the question is whether two years of professional work is > sufficient to qualify as 'senior'. > > I would not hire someone who misrepresented themselves; and seniority, > while relative, is not something that one accrues in less time than it > takes to get an AA. > > If I include all the time I spent working with computers before I got my > first job, why, I'd have -thirty- years of experience ... not twenty. Ok, I've had it. No one's judging your experience, but it's clear you are judging his. This shouldn't be a list for ridiculing others in the same position we are all in, this should be a list for helping each other get jobs in FreeBSD to promote and aid the cause of FreeBSD proliferation. Your actions are directly counterproductive. He has stated that he has more actual job experience than is on the resume, but has chosen to only show the last three jobs. Frankly, I disagree with that -- the "keep your resume to one page" is not entirely true, but that is his choice for his resume. It in no way reflects on your obviously prolific resume, so stop attacking him as though you are being attacked yourself. Regardless, according to the SAGE guidelines, one only needs over five years of experience to be considered a senior level SysAdmin, so he is quite within the qualifications by experience: http://www.sage.org/pubs/8_jobs/core.mm So the entire argument is moot anyway. Grr. gwen. gamergothgeekgrrl. http://www.gw3n.com/ emacs is a cool OS but the editor sucks