From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 1 21:17:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost01.reflexnet.net (mailhost01.reflexnet.net [64.6.192.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973F837BFDE for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 21:17:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com) Received: from 184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com ([64.6.215.184]) by mailhost01.reflexnet.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Tue, 1 Aug 2000 21:15:48 -0700 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by 184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA51061; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 21:16:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 21:16:46 -0700 From: "Crist J . Clark" To: Chris Fedde Cc: Dominic Mitchell , Holtor , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail 8.11.0 Message-ID: <20000801211646.A50818@184.215.6.64.reflexcom.com> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <20000801155735.B97403@bizboz.mistral.co.uk> <200008012003.e71K3wd41491@fedde.littleton.co.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200008012003.e71K3wd41491@fedde.littleton.co.us>; from chris@fedde.littleton.co.us on Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 02:03:57PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 02:03:57PM -0600, Chris Fedde wrote: > On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:57:35 +0100 Dominic Mitchell wrote: > +------------------ > | On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 08:38:56AM -0600, Chris Fedde wrote: > | > I find > | > the whole mailwrapper thing bizarre in the extreem. It is similar > | > to the whole /usr/local/etc/rc.d scheme where we are adding a > | > layer of indirection when there is no need for one. > | > | On the contrary - I find it a complete godsend. It makes replacing the > | standard sendmail with a port/package and absolute breeze. It's far > | nicer than having each port hack around in /usr/sbin for no good reason. > | > | -Dom > +------------------ > > My point is that there is a perfectly good mechinism in existance to allow > switching between MTA. The rc.conf mechinism works well and is consistant > for all other components of the system. In this one case we add a layer of > indirection below rc.conf. > Why not simply use something like > > mta_enable="YES" > mta=/usr/sbin/sendmail > or > mta_ena > mta=/usr/sbin/qmail > > and the appropriate frag in /etc/rc to work with this > I find the whole mailwrapper thing bizarre in the extreem ;-) But that will only affect the MTA listening for relays. It will not change what executable a program trying to send mail on the local machine will exec to send mail... Unless now everything that sends mail has to source rc.conf first. Yuck. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@alum.mit.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message