From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 14 14:20:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA10831 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:20:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from sierra.zyzzyva.com (ppp0.zyzzyva.com [198.183.2.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10707 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:19:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from sierra.zyzzyva.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sierra.zyzzyva.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA18926; Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:17:55 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199611142217.QAA18926@sierra.zyzzyva.com> To: Veggy Vinny cc: David Greenman , isp@FreeBSD.ORG, Chad Shackley Subject: Re: Decision in Router Purchase In-reply-to: richardc's message of Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:28:42 -0800. X-uri: http://www.zyzzyva.com/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:17:54 -0600 From: Randy Terbush Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hmmm okay.... Atleast it seems they are way better from the > sounds of it than our current provider PBI.Net which uses AGIS.Net as the > backbone and refuses to peer with anyone. I guess from what you are > saying, it seems like they are a company that atleast is upgrading as time > goes on. As for the >75% packet loss on their backbone, which sites for > example were you connecting to? SprintLink is even worst after all the > Northern UC Campuses went into a SMDS cloud and out one DS3 to their > Stockton hub, we've been getting 95% packet loss after the switch from > BBNPlanet to SprintLink 2 weeks ago. Thanks for the info though. We've > been doing our research and found that MCI, Sprint, PBI/AGIS are the ones > to stay away from. > > Vince Just for my own edification... It often seems that MCI,Sprint get a bad rap. I'm not an employee or stockholder, but if I'm not mistaken it would be my _rough_ guess that between these two providers, they are carring probably 80% of the traffic on the net (remember, that was a guess). By "staying away from" these two giants, what do you gain? Doesn't your traffic eventually get handled by them? Don't you stand a better chance of getting your traffic routed if you are a customer of Sprint or MCI? >From an occasional glance at things, it would seem that _most_ of the Sprint/MCI problems I see are with border routers not handling the traffic that needs to get on their backbones.