From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Dec 2 07:52:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA06119 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 07:52:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA06094 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 07:52:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA03173; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 16:51:56 +0100 (CET) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id QAA16239; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 16:51:55 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19981202165155.B21015@follo.net> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 16:51:55 +0100 From: Eivind Eklund To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can we just come to a decision on IPv6 and IPSec? References: <1958.912571118@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <1958.912571118@zippy.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Tue, Dec 01, 1998 at 07:58:38PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Dec 01, 1998 at 07:58:38PM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > Today is December 1st (in my timezone, anyway) and we're rapidly > running out of year. When we brought this up 6 months or so ago, the > general concensus seemed to be that we'd make *some* sort of decision > on which way to go by the end of the year. Well, here we are. It's > not like our brethren OSes have exactly stood still in this department > and what's worse is that we have numerous people standing in the wings > just WANTING TO DO THE WORK if someone will only let them, one example > being IPSec which is currently languishing in our PR database and has > been freely discussed on forums like Daemon News (see > http://www.daemonnews.org/199812/security.html). > > This fence rail is pointy and cold and I think we're all going to come > down with an embarrassing medical condition if we keep sitting on it. Since nobody else seems to want to say anything: KAME. My impression is that it is more mature _and_ have more developers (both from among our own committers and in general). Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message