From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 18 17:30:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E5737B401 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 17:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9910D43FAF for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 17:30:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C2FE5269E; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 10:00:54 +0930 (CST) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 10:00:54 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Terry Lambert Message-ID: <20030619003054.GC93137@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <3EEF00E4.9000908@freebsd.mheller.org> <20030617.060806.42773474.imp@bsdimp.com> <20030618023138.GE93137@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030617.204100.122615446.imp@bsdimp.com> <20030618034838.GJ93137@wantadilla.lemis.com> <3EF0331A.2F2CF1DB@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="eZmbrWU10I35niuH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3EF0331A.2F2CF1DB@mindspring.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Interview in Byte with Chris Sontag/SCO and FUD relating toBSDsettlement agreement X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 00:30:28 -0000 --eZmbrWU10I35niuH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday, 18 June 2003 at 2:38:34 -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> Yes, it reminded me of that thread, but wkt was actually referring to >> System III, not 32V. > > I am also pretty certain that it was widely stated at the time > that the UCB's license was the older Western Electric license, > which is the same license which allowed Lyon's to publish his > commentary, legally, including the kernel source code. I suppose you mean John Lions. He got into a lot of trouble for that, and I doubt he would have got away with it in the USA. > While the university, proper, did obtain a more modern license, that > license could not be retroactive to change the terms of the original > license. Which university are you talking about? UCB or UNSW? > The original licenses were very lenient in their terms, since, at > the time, the 1956 consent decreee prohibited them from making money > from software sales, as part of their being a regulated monopoly at > the time. It was only later, after the breakup, that they were > permitted to profit from sales of their software. And that's when > license fees went up. There's a difference between fees and conditions. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers --eZmbrWU10I35niuH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+8QQ+IubykFB6QiMRAlMnAJ9e+ntHUdaDU8tPH6IuO2KfziujaQCeKv71 L4ehVNcCjWD19K1fkI/Lv74= =xRcm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --eZmbrWU10I35niuH--