From owner-freebsd-current Tue Dec 14 10:32:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA88615172 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:32:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA22638; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:32:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:32:23 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199912141832.KAA22638@apollo.backplane.com> To: Ben Rosengart Cc: Bill Fumerola , "Louis A. Mamakos" , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Speaking of moving files (Re: make world broken building fortunes ) References: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :> :> > So how about /usr/sbin/chown -> /sbin/chown so that MAKEDEV works with :> > just the root file system mounted? :> :> As one who just got his ass bitten by this, I would vote yes. : :As one who's missed chown at times when only root's mounted, I'm with Bill. : :-- : Ben Rosengart : :UNIX Systems Engineer, Skunk Group :StarMedia Network, Inc. I think at one time or another all of us have missed *something* in /usr that wasn't in /. For example, disklabel -e doesn't work without vi -- which is in /usr. But if we go down that path we are going to wind up with *every* binary in /usr being moved to /, which is clearly wrong. Moving a well known, long-existing system binary is not something that should be undertaken lightly. I will remind everyone that when sendmail was moved from /usr/libexec to /usr/sbin, it created ramifications that didn't clear up for a year. Sendmail's move could be justified, but I don't think chown's move can be -- certainly not on the basis of something as flimsy as MAKEDEV needing it! -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message