From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 26 09:59:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4E316A41F for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 09:59:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B124343D5A for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 09:59:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jBQA30P76003; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 02:03:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , "Michael C. Shultz" , Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 01:59:39 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20051224153412.26322.qmail@web33314.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Importance: Normal Cc: "Daniel A." , Andy Sjostrom Subject: RE: BSD Question's. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 09:59:47 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Danial Thom >Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 7:34 AM >To: Michael C. Shultz; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Cc: Daniel A.; Andy Sjostrom >Subject: Re: BSD Question's. > > > > >--- "Michael C. Shultz" >wrote: > >> On Saturday 24 December 2005 06:54, Daniel A. >> wrote: >> > Hi Andy, >> > >> > I am sorry for the trouble you have had with >> Windows XP. >> > >> > I suggest that you use Linux, as FreeBSD >> really is not targeted at >> > people who want to use graphical user >> interfaces. >> >> In a few key areas FreeBSD is a better desktop >> OS than Linux: Easier to keep >> the kernel/world and installed ports up to date >> for example without having >> to resort to the microsoft/Linux fixall method >> of removing and reinstalling >> everything every now and again. Your opinion >> is correct IMO that FreeBSD >> managers put most emphasis on FreeBSD as a >> server and little as a desktop. >> My guess is because donations(cash) and >> hardware support for developers >> come from people who want servers while people >> who want a desktop OS tend to >> donate squat.... >> >> > The linux developers really have been trying >> to make a valuable >> > replacement for Windows, as they somehow have >> experienced the same >> > issues with Windows (And Microsoft products >> in general) that you have. >> > >> > One Linux distribution in particular that I >> think you might like, is >> > Ubuntu. You can download it at >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/, or order a >> > CD (Free shipping, free CD, you pay nothing). >> >> Advertising Linux in a FreeBSD mailing list? >> Sounds like you may have more of >> axe to grind against the FreeBSD management >> folk than a desire to offer sound >> advice.... >> >> -Mike > >Why not just tell the truth, which is that >Windows XP is the best that you can do for the >desktop, and that there is no perfect solution >that works perfectly in every scenario? This ignores a very important fact: the needs of a home user for a desktop OS are rapidly becoming very different than the needs of a corporation for a desktop OS. Windows XP is the best desktop OS you can have on the $499.99 computers that they sell with the operating system preloaded down at Best Buy, and that are purchased by the typical home user. But it is a serious problem for the average corporation. Many of them are deploying Microsoft Terminal Server and using Winterms, or Linux systems running remote desktop, terminal served into the TS. In this manner they can provide the user with access to the apps that they are trained on, such as Word, Excel, PowerPoint, etc. in a controlled fashion that does not permit the user to download the latest virus-of-the-month, or crap-up their system with the latest screen-saver from the Weather channel that tanks the Internet connection every 3 minutes downloading a 1MB jpg file of the weather in San Francisco. Ted