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Subject: Re: why is -stable not secure? 
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> > Fine.  Provide the resources for someone to patch 2.1.
> 
> Please elaborate on "resources".  Do you not think it should be done in
> the main CVS repository, or are you referring to the manpower required to
> do the work?  

Manpower and/or incentives for manpower.  In the past, I offered to
integrate any/all changes to the -stable branch from the 'users', which
include a large number of commercial folks who rely on FreeBSD for their
business.  I didn't receive *one* patch from anyone, and instead had to
do all my own testing and such to bring in stability/security patches to
stable that I felt were necessary.

I thinks it's nice that everyone likes stable, but no-one was willing to
do anything to keep it updated, so I withdrew my offer because of the
obvious lack of interest in outside people doing work.  I'm now focusing
my energies on current.



Nate