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Date:      Wed, 10 Mar 2004 23:08:00 +0200
From:      Petri Helenius <pete@he.iki.fi>
To:        Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net>
Cc:        Kevin Oberman <oberman@es.net>
Subject:   Re: Who wants SACK? (Re: was My planned work on networking stack)
Message-ID:  <404F83B0.7020803@he.iki.fi>
In-Reply-To: <20040310192255.GD14892@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu>
References:  <20040309214205.3EE2D5D07@ptavv.es.net> <20040309160821.P705@odysseus.silby.com> <20040310123237.V61186@beagle.fokus.fraunhofer.de> <20040310154139.GA14892@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> <404F40EB.6040702@he.iki.fi> <20040310192255.GD14892@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu>

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Brooks Davis wrote:

>The problem is that the BER of a typical optical link is high enough
>that the link will almost certantly discard at least one packet before
>you get out of slow-start and once that happens it, AIMK means it take
>hours or even days to get back up to the top even assuming you don't
>lose further packets.  This isn't a problem for most people, but it's
>definalty a problem for the HPC community.
>
>  
>
BER is usually combatted with technologies which embed redundant bits 
into the datastream so an occasional bit error does not take out a 
packet. In conjuction of 10GbE this would probably mean G.709. I would 
be happy to learn whether the typical link has BER of 10E-15 or 10E-12 
and how fast retransmit plays in the picture of losing a bit every ten 
minutes or so.

Pete



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