From nobody Fri Jul 12 19:20:15 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4WLLyw5Pdhz5QZrc for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:20:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marquis@roble.com) Received: from mx5.roble.com (mx5.roble.com [209.237.23.5]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx5.roble.com", Issuer "mx5.roble.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WLLyv2VHmz4rlW for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:20:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marquis@roble.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=roble.com header.s=rs060402 header.b=b71I+oCB; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=roble.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of marquis@roble.com designates 209.237.23.5 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=marquis@roble.com Received: from roble.com (roble.com [209.237.23.50]) by mx5.roble.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA84249780; Fri, 12 Jul 2024 12:20:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=roble.com; s=rs060402; t=1720812015; bh=fgpv7hblLOgLrVLlJG6pkQwRvV+2+K/bsZR0RjJ+ZIw=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=b71I+oCBZR4UkrOwXahggurB4jO/lirTvCbkrfCUkhTxUhv4klsOjgXScp0oXQJk1 uKZkM/FWN6JKp+iTz7bIsvk6iU+dGIz8SuzkKAzmcFCyx4WiNudDoYGUVZqYw/aCFV OPQ6B39QpRyWLqbrJUNySdVZ86JL4EirS09POPjs= Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2024 12:20:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Marquis To: Graham Perrin cc: freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_#12_-_X_server_unusable_by_a_normal_use?= =?UTF-8?Q?r_following_pkg_upgrade_with_pkgbase=2C_from_14?= =?UTF-8?Q?=2E0-RELEASE-p=E2=8B=AF_to_14=2E1-RELEASE-p=E2=8B=AF_-_?= =?UTF-8?Q?grahamperrin=2Ffreebsd-src_-_Codeberg=2Eorg?= In-Reply-To: <642dadeb-bf26-469b-9b87-c6f94e13364f@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <642dadeb-bf26-469b-9b87-c6f94e13364f@gmail.com> List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.88 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.978]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[roble.com,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[roble.com:s=rs060402]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.237.23.0/24]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:17403, ipnet:209.237.0.0/18, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[roble.com:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WLLyv2VHmz4rlW The wiki should explicitly note that this software is very much in alpha with problems to be expected. Issues that may arise include overwritten dotfiles, passwd, master db, and corruption of the pkg database. The only safe way to test is by using ZFS partitions with frequent creation of beadm snapshots. Roger Marquis > Briefly > > Re: > > (the three steps) > > I'd like to edit to no longer > imply that 'pkg upgrade' is safe in point upgrade situations. The somewhat > disorderly mix from multiple repos seems to be problematic ? updates to > various ports attempted in the midst of base updates from 14.0 to 14.1. > > Any objection to me making a substantial (but brief) change to the wiki? > > I can add details in Codeberg, if you like. > > Thanks. > > > > > > > >