From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 11 17:59:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B20E1106564A for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 17:59:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy6-pub.bluehost.com (unknown [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 739748FC13 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 17:59:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 24313 invoked by uid 0); 11 Aug 2011 17:59:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 2011 17:59:28 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=IXE0C8MovjDxH1sqkGgXcRBEP8whYMY2EMfAh6+YkC4=; b=WpDtmEXex9vu3U6dM5Av7FX1cp/CFbpQ7QZxASmqEnemIEdNpviagUAhgcFShhd1E7MWmtskThrctAOrXvxw3PyN6WNuTxDxN88Xwy1QfxxN3igX0z+t8I89v1aIjofI; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QrZXT-0001Ni-3W for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 11:59:28 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 11 Aug 2011 11:41:50 -0600 Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 11:41:50 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110811174150.GA73893@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> <20110811112315.486cb92f.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ibTvN161/egqYuK8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110811112315.486cb92f.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 17:59:28 -0000 --ibTvN161/egqYuK8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 11:23:15AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 21:12:14 +0200, Christian Barthel wrote: > > > > As a Gnome 2.3x user too, I am also a bit nervouse. Gnome 3 is a big > > mistake. And there are also rumors that Gnome will be Linux only. >=20 > Xfce is said to be, too. :-) The XFCE project has elected to support certain functionality by way of subsystems that only exist in Linux-based OSes. The window manager and desktop environment can still be used without that functionality, though. This was how the XFCE project maintainers decided to make it portable; by providing a way to not use certain functionality that requires the Linux kernel and subsystems that depend on it. >=20 > Because the magic of tiling window managers didn't open up to me > yet, I can't comment on them, but I'm sure many professional users > do actively use them, as after a bit of learning and practicing, > those are said to be more comfortable than the "common" windowing > solutions that urgently need to "entertain" you. :-) If you want to have a "friendly" introduction to tiling window managers, I recommend i3. It's not a "children's" window manager, as beginner friendly versions of some other things are, but it is still more friendly to beginners than most tiling window managers in my opinion. For those who like to dive in head first and wade through the technical documentation in depth, xmonad and dwm are great. For those who want a somewhat gentler initial learning curve, though, i3 is great. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --ibTvN161/egqYuK8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk5EFF4ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKUMcACeIe09ATIHOR9PAH+lIiOfP1Sb TWIAninjhsoGrsnlrx7uuqoPC/cENyBt =53Ph -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ibTvN161/egqYuK8--