Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 17:51:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> To: Daniel Robbins <drobbins@funtoo.org> Cc: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Replacing rc(8) (Was: FreeBSD Boot Times) Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1206201745040.1949@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <CAPDOV4_ufNGyheDAhPxfndJ7WtH_u=5z7mrLtW-5-a9BMbCswg@mail.gmail.com> References: <4FDF6177.5050608@unsane.co.uk> <4FDF6586.9060501@gentoo.org> <4FDFB166.2040709@FreeBSD.org> <4FDFB44D.9090308@gentoo.org> <4FE0ADCD.9010109@FreeBSD.org> <4FE0C123.8030301@gentoo.org> <CAGH67wRidMZrzjzTSdwud%2BZ5V--wOTN8CHXOWcOr%2BE5XHYo2rA@mail.gmail.com> <4FE0F773.1080403@gentoo.org> <CAGH67wQdb-c0Kf=60rkaJSH8Hd0OjwCi=rQQMzGq8xfp2q7b=Q@mail.gmail.com> <4FE100F9.2050009@funtoo.org> <20120620073920.GA5300@lonesome.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1206201618560.75278@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <CAPDOV49kkOdeV%2B6LVW5j5PO6VYrrNVqWZEksc_GzvWHjbufoAQ@mail.gmail.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1206201722520.1856@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <CAPDOV4_ufNGyheDAhPxfndJ7WtH_u=5z7mrLtW-5-a9BMbCswg@mail.gmail.com>
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> So let me know if you have any ideas for anything that would be > considered more than just a slight improvement, that would make you go > "OK, now it's seriously worth considering OpenRC as this is more than > just a nominal improvement in functionality." actually i am happy with current system, but maybe others. My most important ideas are: - any new system should not be more complex - ability to keep all flags and main config in single file (/etc/rc.conf) must persist. I don't want mess. And for sure not only me. - once again - the less files, the better. Some time ago i had to use linux (fortunately no longer needed). As i don't use it normally i just took debian installer that i remembered it WAS usable. After seeing the incredible complexity of /etc structure, not just rc scripts, i deleted most of it and put startup sequence in single file. It was plain horror. >> If someone would like to make new ports subsystem from scratch then it would >> be great. Would you like to ? ;) > > I know you are joking, but in all seriousness, this is another area of yes i am. but that joke is clear suggestion that we have already tens of thousands better or worse made ports! > it's a good idea to stay in touch :) if you have idea how to improve existing rc.d AND make ports working as is then go on. Anyway i don't see rc.d subsystem to be such a big deal that great improvement are possible at all. For me it is OK. For a cases when i need really quick start or so - i just deleted it and put everything in /etc/rc
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