From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 11 21:49:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.drkshdw.org (user4.net011.fl.sprint-hsd.net [207.30.203.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1E837B408 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:49:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scorpio@drkshdw.org) Received: (qmail 47111 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2001 04:49:35 -0000 Received: from h3u1-a2c897.elp.rr.com (HELO oemcomputer.drkshdw.org) (24.162.200.151) by user4.net011.fl.sprint-hsd.net with SMTP; 12 Jun 2001 04:49:35 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010611223530.01fcf0f0@jeff.isni.net> X-Sender: scorpio@jeff.isni.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:44:17 -0600 To: Mixtim , Jordan K.Hubbard From: Jeff Palmer Subject: Re: Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore? Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20010611181632.A19118@home.com> References: <20010611150838X.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010611172443.A18552@home.com> <3B25405D.2090209@cs.csubak.edu> <20010611150838X.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anyone who decides to build world and REQUIRES that the build work correctly the FIRST time, heed this advice. First, subscribe to, and read freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Second, sync your local sources today, and then FOLLOW the mailing list for 3-5 days BEFORE trying to build world. If anyone is complaining about failed builds, wait till the issue is resolved. sync your sources again, and wait a few more days following the lists. >If the only qualification code must meet for STABLE is that it compiles then >you should change the name. Lets not be petty here, ok? The -STABLE branch has been just fine, and will continue to be just fine if you follow the above advice. Anyone can sync their sources in the middle of a commiter uploading some new code changes. Also, the commiters are only human, yes there will be short breakages, but at least (generally) problems are fixed within hours of the first report. unlike SOME OS's where they know of bugs and wait 9-10 months before a (binary only) patch is released. Might I suggest, if you don't like the -STABLE moniker, feel free to grep through the sources, and change "-STABLE" to anything you'd like. It is open source after all. Just my thoughts on the subject, Jeff Palmer scorpio@drkshdw.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message