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Date:      Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:43:05 -0700
From:      "Bruce A. Mah" <bmah@FreeBSD.ORG>
To:        "Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net>
Cc:        "David W. Chapman Jr." <dwcjr@inethouston.net>, "Sam C. Zamarripa" <scz73@yahoo.com>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Weird Traceroute/Ping 
Message-ID:  <200106202043.f5KKh5e31524@intruder.bmah.org>
In-Reply-To: <200106201811.f5KIBZc11576@ptavv.es.net> 
References:  <200106201811.f5KIBZc11576@ptavv.es.net>

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If memory serves me right, "Kevin Oberman" wrote:

> To determine the effective bandwidth of a connection you need to know
> the lowest bandwidth of any link between you and the other end. pchar
> (in ports) is a pretty good way to look at this, although it can be
> misleading in some conditions.

(I'm pretty sure Kevin knows this, but for everyone else, I'm the guy 
who wrote pchar.)

Yes, pchar has some problems trying to measure some types of links.  The
most recent version (1.4) tries to address some of these problems, but
it's still hard to measure subnets several hops away with unknown L2
topologies.

Happily, if I understand the current issue (sorry, came into the middle
of the thread), you don't need anything as detailed as pchar. Another
tool called pathrate does a nice job of measuring the capacity of a path
between two hops; while it doesn't try to measure individual hops, it
uses a different methodology that doesn't suffer some of the problems of
pchar.  It's home page is:

http://www.cis.udel.edu/~dovrolis/bwmeter.html

pathrate isn't in the ports collection; I was thinking of doing a 
skeleton for it once it settles down a bit; current version I have is 
2.0.3.

Cheers,

Bruce.



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