From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Mar 3 02:32:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA18180 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 02:32:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt050ndd.san.rr.com (root@dt050ndd.san.rr.com [204.210.31.221]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA18144; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 02:32:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Received: from san.rr.com (dougdougdougdoug@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt050ndd.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA05785; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 02:32:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Message-ID: <34FBDC53.9531562@san.rr.com> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 02:32:51 -0800 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE-0302 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG CC: Satoshi Asami , jkh@time.cdrom.com Subject: Re: ports for X11 stuff References: <199803030444.UAA15161@dingo.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Smith wrote: > > > * A question - would it be desirable for X to be installed, by default, > > * somewhere *else*, and just symlinked into /usr? Should it go in > > * /usr/local, so that an experienced admin can assign a separate > > * filesystem for this? > > > > Yes. > > > > Actually, if you can do something like "if /usr/local is a separate > > filesystem from /usr or a symlink to a directory in a separate > > filesystem from /usr, then make /usr/X11R6 a symlink into > > /usr/local/X11R6", that will be great, but that's probably asking too > > much. :) > > It's quite achievable; the question is (as Jordan asked) whether it's > going to surprise people that *expect* it to be in /usr. I think part of the problem here is that different people are talking about different things. What I was talking about (and pardon me for not making myself clear) is installing any X related ports into /usr/local/X11R6/*, not installing all of X into /usr/local. My reasoning for this is simple. I like to back up /usr/local (et al) so that if my system goes belly up I can rebuild most of /usr from the default distribution and then paste /usr/local back in, thus saving myself hours and days of work. Others have mentioned the desire to make /usr/whatever ro, and other valid security concerns. Bowing to the "we don't want to confuse anybody" argument, I would settle for an option in /etc/make.conf. We have X11BASE now, how about X11PORTS? Yes, I realize this isn't really our problem, we've always done it that way, yadda yadda yadda. However this is an excellent case of what seems to me like a pretty simple change that would bring a lot of joy. :) Flame away, Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message