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From: Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@FreeBSD.org>
To: Oliver Pinter <oliver.pinter@hardenedbsd.org>
Cc: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>,
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Subject: Re: svn commit: r331880 - stable/11/etc
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On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 01:29:19AM +0200, Oliver Pinter wrote:
> On Monday, April 9, 2018, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Kyle Evans <kevans@freebsd.org> wrote:
> > > Right- so, back out this MFC (and the subsequent FreeBSD_version bump)
> > > and fix the ports to do the right thing for 12.x while that's still
> > > not a technically supported branch?
> >
> > Don't back out the version bump. Other things may be riding along on it
> > 'for free'. Better to bump it again when you unMFC (if it's been more than
> > a few days since we've had one), and then yet-again when a fixed MFC
> > happens. Unless there's something you can ride along on for free :)
> >
> > Otherwise, that's a great plan.
> 
> What's about "direction Z"? Like moving find to /bin and do a compatibility
> symlink for them from /usr/bin?

That smells fishy.  Reminds me of GNU/Linux where I typically have to parse
through gazillion of compatibility symlinks before stumbling upon 30-byte
shim saying "implemented in systemd now". :-(

./danfe